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Not Gem BU Buttttttt

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 Posted 11/02/2016  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
they're selling a problem coin with good pics. Buyer be educated. Should we fault every seller on the bay taking photos of problem coins?

This coin has original surfaces and a mark on the obverse which will cause it to down grade. But if you're a collector who does not mind certain problems to get original circulated silver in AU than its a win at the less-than-problem-free FMV it would have sold for.

But oh my It's GSC

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 Posted 11/02/2016  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
to boot


A-4 F-104


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Comments: Ahwash does not provide a set of obverse and reverse photographs for this variety. He describes a series of obverse die cracks that join the bottom of the date digits, and that join the tops of UNITED. Another die crack is seen from STATE(S) though head, cap and tops of the letters AMERICA.


Not such a bad coin after all.
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 Posted 11/02/2016  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
I'm going mid AU...like AU55

however, I agree with the others in that I would not purchase from this seller. they have very good photographers that know how to manipulate the coins to look way better than they are and can hide defects
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 Posted 11/02/2016  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
I'm with the mainstream . Forget him and move on .
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 Posted 11/02/2016  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
No sense of luster or original surfaces at all. A dead stick.
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 Posted 11/02/2016  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
I have never bought from this dealer, but I do hear negatives about the seller
often.
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 Posted 11/02/2016  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grumpy56 to your friends list
Appreciate the comments and guidance. Will pass.
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 Posted 11/03/2016  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
I've never had a bad experience but than again, I did not buy from GSC until I was confident in MY ability to judge what I was looking at. Here is an example of a calculated GSC purchase that make me believe that while they're picture taking skills are making the coin look as best as possible, they're leaving it up to the buyer to be somewhat experienced at buying raw coins:

GSC


Not-Gem-BU-Buttttttt

Not-Gem-BU-Buttttttt

in-hand

Not-Gem-BU-Buttttttt

Not-Gem-BU-Buttttttt
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 Posted 11/03/2016  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
< dsfreeworld > , real nice strike ,but I don't like the obverse blotchy toning . Looks MS , I hope the price was right .
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 Posted 11/03/2016  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
MS details, once cleaned
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 Posted 11/03/2016  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
The coin in question is definitely NOT "gem BU" (as described by the seller GSC).

The coin is/was at one time a high end AU coin that has been way over dipped. The excessive dipping has killed any remaining luster that the coin had and that's why it now has that dull gray color.

The coin will slab with a details grade.....unless of course it ends up with one of the basement slabbers....then all bets are off!
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 Posted 11/03/2016  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list

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I hope the price was right .


$29 just checked on ebay history. w/out question MS and would righteously slab from PCGS or NGC as a 62/63 in all likelihood although I am not sure RB would be in the cards but some had opined that at the time I posted last year.

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 Posted 11/03/2016  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
I think most coins below 1940's has been cleaned, dipped or what-so-ever at least once, either gently with a soft cloth or with a brillo pad. Finding a older coin that hasn't been clean is a major task these days for me.
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 Posted 11/03/2016  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
That '03 Indian is a dog.
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 Posted 11/03/2016  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list

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I think most coins below 1940's has been cleaned, dipped or what-so-ever at least once, either gently with a soft cloth or with a brillo pad. Finding a older coin that hasn't been clean is a major task these days for me.


That's why I jump when they look like this:



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or this


Not-Gem-BU-Buttttttt



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That '03 Indian is a dog.






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