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VF-25 details. Two digs on the neck and a massive hit at 10:00 on the reverse wreath.
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Too bad about the damage, hard date to find High VF details Thanks, I need to improve my skill on finding problem free coins. Quote:
VF-25 details. Two digs on the neck and a massive hit at 10:00 on the reverse wreath.
Yes, the one on the reverse isn't so noticeable when seeing the coin in person because it is sort of an indent, but in the photo it definitely comes out. Seems like I should consult this forum more often BEFORE I send in coins to grade   |
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It might actually go straight. I'd hate to be the grader on this one!
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It might actually go straight. I'd hate to be the grader on this one I really hope so. I'll keep you all updated one I get the results. |
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VF-35 if it grades out. That's a pretty big hit. Hit on the reverse wreath too at 11:00?
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VF-35 if it grades out. That's a pretty big hit. Hit on the reverse wreath too at 11:00? Yep. |
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PICS BELOW Very pleased with how quickly this coin came back from PCGS. The coin was accepted on November 30th and shipped out on December 15th. Finally collected this along with three other coins at the post office today, and unfortunately this coin didn't make a solid grade... [b] Grade: VF Details- Cleaning NO VARIETY DESIGNATIION I called PCGS customer service to inquire on why the coin wasn't designated with the DDO and DDR Snow 2 Variety I was sure I had. According the system notes, the CSR said that this was the Snow-13 Variety of the DDO and DDR error, and PCGS does not currently certify that variety.  However, if you THOROUGHLY examine the picture PCGS has for the 1870 DDO and DDR Snow 2 on their website, I can almost match every single die marker this coin has to their Snow 2. (Fell free to try this if you have the time and let me know what you think) I feel a bit ripped off about paying 18$ for variety attribution and despite having a variety, not getting ANYTHING on the label. Oh well, beginner's lesson learned. You all were spot on about the details grade, except that the details were from cleaning, not damage. I feel the pictures I posted didn't accurately represent the coin's true color and surfaces, so if you didn't see the cleaning, its not your fault. I'll attempt to better my photos next time around. So what do you all think about this? Anyway, here is a TrueView of the coin.  And a picture of the slab.  Edited by Eric19
12/19/2016 9:08 pm
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Thats unfortunate, you might talk to Fred Weinberg Through ebay. He is the error and variety guy at PCGS, thats why you pay the extra 18. For his cut. I'm not sure, you could post the other coins you could match and also show that to Fred. |
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The only problem is that since its detailed for cleaning someone might miss the hits. If you ever do sell it I'd be sure to mention that.
Sorry to hear most of us were right, although we were wrong for the reason for the details grade.
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you might talk to Fred Weinberg Through eBay Do you know his ebay I.D.? Quote:
The only problem is that since its detailed for cleaning someone might miss the hits. If you ever do sell it I'd be sure to mention that. Yes, I will certainly be sure to mention that. I will be selling this coin since I have a lot of money tied up with it and it was something I intended to sell when I bought it. I wonder what I could get for it? Btw, thanks for editing the title. Edited by Eric19
12/19/2016 9:49 pm
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Why don't you call Rick Snow? Or email him with pictures and your argument. He is a really nice guy. I am sure he would love to talk with a student of his research work. I called him once and he took a few minutes to talk to me. Maybe he can help.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
12/19/2016 10:22 pm
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Why don't you call Rick Snow? Or email him with pictures and your argument. He is a really nice guy. I am sure he would love to talk with a student of his research work. I called him once and he took a few minutes to talk to me. Maybe he can help. Quite a smart idea. He is THE expert of Indian Head cents. I am glad he seems friendly towards inquires and is a friendly guy. I can't find pictures of a Snow 13 1870 Indian Head cent online so maybe he could send me some. |
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Freds ID is something like FredWeinberg I think. I say email em both
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