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I'd say VF-35, possibly XF-40 with some strike weakness. Very attractive toning.
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Second set looks pretty accurate, they match Heritage's pictures of the slab. Heritage's "close up" pictures always look artificially bright to me.
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Interesting that Newman had graded this piece at Fine. Standards were likely different back then. Did you acquire the envelope with the coin? On the lower right hand side of the envelope you can see the outline of where the coin resided. Likely acquired its toning from the chemicals in the envelope. Would be way cool if it had conveyed to you at the sale.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
12/05/2016 12:47 am
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The seller from whom I purchased the coin may not be the original purchaser. If the envelope comes with the coin, that will be a nice bonus.
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You should contact the seller and try to track the envelope down through the chain of custody. These two items shouldn't be separated. The envelope likely housed the coin for a while.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I think the coin might be an EF-45 because I believe there is luster in the protected areas around the letters and stars. If that perception is wrong, then it's a Choice VF-30 or 35.
The coin was bluntly struck which makes it look to be in lower grade that it appears. This is especially true on the reverse.
The "Fine" grade on the old envelope is from days gone by. I have not seen grading that conservative since the mid 1970s when I was buying coins from Catherine Bullowa.
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I feel that this coin is accurately graded at VF35, and think NGC pretty much nailed it. XF40, I can see possibly. "Colonel" Ned Green was an interesting man, highly successful in business, wealthy and flamboyant, and a philatelic/numismatic legend, and if you have a few (dozen) spare minutes, there are a great many stories to be enjoyed, starting with the 1913 V nickels (why have one when you can have all five?)  Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Has the coin been removed from this holder? The initial images don't show the NGC prongs and a much lighter coin? It is nice to see an Ex: Col. Green piece that's not overgraded!
EDIT: Just re-read your first post. It's amazing how much lighter it looks in the first images.
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12/06/2016 5:22 pm
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Nice. Did you get the envelope?
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I did not. I have sent a message to seller. I will see if he replies. If not, I am not worried, since I do have several pictures of it from Heritage.
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Paralyse,
A good read is the book "Hetty" she was known as The Witch of Wallstreet, and she was Col Green's mother.
Nice Coin.
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