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1969 Cent, Looks Struck Through Cloth And Double Struck, Confirmation Please

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 Posted 01/06/2017  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apitrix to your friends list
To me it does not look like any PMD, I am a little curious about the strike though. I do not see how this could be created due to it not having a recessed or mirrored image into it. Also, I don't see any damage as mentioned by another forum member. It looks just like a normal cent, no damage, just flare. And it is a 69, lots of interesting things happened that year. I am going to wait for SPP to post, very interested to see his opinion
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 Posted 01/07/2017  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
It looks like the second strike was smaller.

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 Posted 01/07/2017  12:19 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
I am sticking to my assessment that this is an altered coin post mint. The raised rim of the second strike can't happen in a real second strike as the collar is needed to make it.
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 Posted 01/07/2017  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
For the year and no eye appeal even if real not worth much, but agree with most PMD
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 Posted 01/07/2017  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list
Boy that's a real Someone went to a lot of work
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 Posted 01/07/2017  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scissel to your friends list
It does look suspiciously like PMD. Is the diameter larger than a regular cent? Is it perfectly round?
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 Posted 01/07/2017  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list
Is it the proper weight?

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 Posted 01/08/2017  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mike9999999 to your friends list
kbbpll and others:

The second strike is of a 12-sided penny from 1982-1989. This points to it being a PMD HAD IT BEEN REVERSED. Thus, I conclude a mint-employee brought it in and did that either on accident or on purpose.
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 Posted 01/08/2017  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apitrix to your friends list
It weighs 3.23, proper diameter, perfectly rounded...there isn't a 12 sided die to it, the first strike is perfectly rounded like the Second strike
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 Posted 01/08/2017  02:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list
I agree with this being PMD, altered using soft dies. Dollarman already pointed out that the raised "rim" on the second strike can't happen without a collar. A struck through cloth will also leave it with a cloth pattern and more blurred devices on the coin, and not a "second strike" as clear and sharp as what is seen here.
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 Posted 01/08/2017  03:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mike9999999 to your friends list
The rim! Yes, that concludes it to be PMD. Altered coin it is.
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 Posted 01/08/2017  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
SlurExe97 and thedollarman...

The students, have become the teachers... well done...

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 Posted 01/08/2017  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list
Well I guess someone had to step up with the ole' professor cruising the caribbean...
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 Posted 01/09/2017  12:26 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
@SPP well thank you that means quite a lot from you, I've learned lots from you, that's for sure!
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 Posted 01/10/2017  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list
Thank you SPP, I'm not that tact when it comes to words so I'll second Dollarman
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