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First Time CRH. Identification Requested Please. (1999 WAM?)

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 Posted 01/21/2017  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakes8 to your friends list
goof work on the wheats!
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 Posted 01/21/2017  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list
to the forum!

It does look like a Close AM in the first photos, but the close up photos that were added later lets us see that this is a Wide AM.
The light and the distance the first photos were taken does make it difficult to see what you have.
Nice find!
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 Posted 01/21/2017  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Yep, you got one for sure, close FG...you lucky devil!
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 Posted 01/21/2017  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Druu to your friends list
Thanks for the responses, everyone! I wasn't positive, and Coop's assessment felt like the death knell on my hopes. It had me going back to the coin and squinting.

Now I just need to figure out its condition. This may be the first thing I've found worth slabbing?
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 Posted 01/21/2017  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list
Unless you changed your original photos all the pickup points are there, great find and welcome to the forum!
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 Posted 01/21/2017  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
I wouldn't slab it, put it in a blank album page (Whitman, Dansco) with all your other error coins and notables. I've got stamped pennies, cutouts, super RPM's/DDO's. BTW, another name for these in some circles are called "transitional dies". The change in the reverse dies of 1992 and 1993 have the close/far AM/FG's...great to compare to. Someone said that the 1998-2000 VAM's are actually the use of a proof die, I don't know about that, anyone have an answer?
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 Posted 01/21/2017  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Druu to your friends list
Thanks for the welcome, slamnbass. The pics weren't changed. First post was edited because I misspelled "this" as "thia," and it was bugging me.

CrazyB0, here is John Wexler's link on transitional dies: http://www.doubleddie.com/58348.html, and I have read in several places that WAMs are a circulation strike obverse with a proof reverse.
What is VAM an acronym for? I've only seen CAM for 1992, and WAM for 1998-2000.
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 Posted 01/21/2017  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list


Congrats on your 1999P Wide AM Find!

* Regarding what is a VAM: go to the Peace and Morgan dollar forum and click on the first topic " What is a VAM?"



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 Posted 01/21/2017  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Druu, the 1993 CAM means Close AM, where normal business strike is Wide AM, close FG. WAM hence is opposite, Wide AM, where business normal being the Close AM, wide FG. If that makes sense. I put a 92 reverse nearby as a reference point when looking through 1998-2000's for VAM and a '94 reverse for '93 CAM's, maybe that'll help.
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 Posted 01/21/2017  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list
Normal business strikes from'93 on are Close AM's
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 Posted 01/21/2017  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list
To the CCF!

Great find!


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What is VAM an acronym for?


A VAM pertains to Morgan dollars and Peace dollars. When talking varieties of these coins they are called VAMs.

I believe the acronym, VAM, itself is a combination of the last names of Leroy Van Allen and A George Mallis. These two published a book about VAMS almost 50 years ago.

I believe Crazybo meant to type WAM and accidentally typed VAM.
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 Posted 01/22/2017  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NDCENT to your friends list
Nice find! I have a MS 64 Red 99 WAM.
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 Posted 02/17/2017  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jonna Mannelin to your friends list
Hi everyone. I found a 1999 Wide AM. I wanted to know if I have to send it away for grading in order to sell it.
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 Posted 02/20/2017  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
No, but depending on the coins condition it might bring more money graded. It wuld also be easier to sell because there are a lot of people out there that have no idea what they are buying and they depend on the slab label to tell them what it is.
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 Posted 02/20/2017  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Druu to your friends list
Hi Jonna, You could post a picture here, and we'll confirm the find for you. I haven't sent out my find to be graded yet either. I'm just giving it an acetone dip and stashing it away in an Air-Tite for now.
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