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I Know I Cant Save It, But Cant I Do Something? 1800's Penny...

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 Posted 01/26/2017  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerseyben to your friends list
Acetone wont do anything for this coin. It is already gone. Best bet is olive oil, not that it will do much...
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 Posted 01/26/2017  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
My bad :( At first glance it looked like a Large Cent , but your right ,It's an IHC . Sorry about that .
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 Posted 01/26/2017  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
Your best bet is to keep this far away from any other coins you DO like!

Contaminants can spread ... handle one coin than another and BAM!

Given this coin is pretty far gone nothing you do is going to technically "wreck" this coin.... the acidity in olive oil will help... verdicare would help if you already have some on hand...

But what ever you do... I'd be handling this with nitrile gloves and keep it contained and away from any other coins you cherish!
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 Posted 01/26/2017  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
Just a suggestion. This may be an opportunity to experiment with the coin as you have nothing to lose. Before you use VerdiCare you should remove the organic material with soaks in acetone, rinse, and then soak in xylene and rinse. Both are organic solvents but they behave differently because acetone is polar and xylene is non-polar. Then soak it in VerdiCare and pick at it with a toothpick. You may see a slight improvement but don't expect much. It's a good way to learn about the various products and not risk ruining a valuable coin.
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 Posted 01/26/2017  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Good advice.
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 Posted 01/26/2017  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tocomabyt to your friends list
skip organic solvents, as there is nothing organic on the coin.

coin looks like metal detecting find.
you can experiment with it at your will,
nothing can lower its value,
as it already equals to zero.

even if you destroy the coin with your experiments,
you learn the lesson for the future.
so you win anyway.

if you (or anybody else) wish,
i could even mail handful of metal detecting coins,
19. century finds from central Europe (Austria, Hungary),
for any experiments.

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 Posted 01/26/2017  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list

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skip organic solvents, as there is nothing organic on the coin.

I must respectfully disagree - how can you see that? Please provide some details.
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 Posted 01/26/2017  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thecoinguy1964 to your friends list
I'd throw in the the cull box, and buy some more. They're not all that expensive.
Best of luck!
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 Posted 01/26/2017  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tocomabyt to your friends list
as a metal detectorist,
i have seen hundreds of copper coins in similar condition.
this is exactly how 1800's copper coins look when dug up from the soil.

but of course, I might be wrong.
just my best guess.
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 Posted 01/26/2017  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list
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 Posted 01/26/2017  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
I respect your opinion but... you didn't provide any information to support your statement. Anything in the soil is organic. So, acetone and xylene are the logical first step. Agree?
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 Posted 01/26/2017  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tocomabyt to your friends list
that is question for coin owner, I would say.

anyway, I stand for what I wrote.

organic reactants in the soil don't produce organically removable products on the copper.



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 Posted 01/26/2017  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
OK, I'll leave the thread because this makes no sense.
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 Posted 01/26/2017  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tocomabyt to your friends list
i hereby declare that I am willing to send you for free a handful of 19 century metal detecting copper coins from Europe.
let's assume European 19. century copper coins behave as same as 19. century copper US coins.

if you manage to remove anything away from them by acetone,
I in advance agree you are right.

if you do not wish to do the experiment with acetone,
I will send the coins to the first member interested to do the experiment.
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 Posted 01/28/2017  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tocomabyt to your friends list
as a small example,
you can view restoration of similarly damaged copper coin,
early 1700's copper mining poltura of Leopold I. :

http://tocomabyt.rajce.idnes.cz/Leo...Cu_poltura./
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