1892 1c, OBV 2 Or 4?

i agree with okie obv2

Aw c'mon let's have some fun here, it's a poll.

Paulsz: Even back in '82 when they first started using the Obv 2, you find somewhat rounded chins/throat The coin in this thread still has a cleft there where the defined wrinkle/inset usually is. I think that a combo of the photos and darkness doesn't allow us to see the pronounced cleft. An Obv 4 will show no inkling whatsoever of an indent being in the rounded chin. In my research for 1892's, the best way to tell a 2 from a 4 is the neck truncation where it meets the beads. That eliminates worn dies or hubs. If the OP would have shown us the N in Regina, then we'd know for sure.

I loaned nearly (or more than) 100 1892's to Rob Turner for his book on the 1890 & 92 book, so I have alot to refer to. I would have rather seen the whole coin obverse in one clear shot .. then it's easy.

There are two obv 2 dies, one with a broken lower N serif and the intact (scarcer) lower N serif. Can we see the D in DEI, should have a broken lower serif for an Obv 2. In the pic of the whole coin, looks like the serif in D is still there. But the lighting might be causing that

Definitely Obv. 4

Cheers, Bill

OK, now that I see the N in Regina clearly (as well as the DEI)and consulting with Rob's book on the 1890/1892 mintages, I'll change my opinion to a 4, even though the initial thumbnail photos made the neck truncation/bead junction look like a 2. I consulted the 1892 master and he, too, thinks it a 4, but also said that "with the caveat that pictures can fool you".

Besides the large die crack through the C in Victoria, what other D/C's are there? That Obverse is not in Rob's 90/92 book. This exercise DID make me look at my '92's and I found 20 Obv 2's, equally split between full and broken serif N's in Regina.