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Would Acetone Remove This Glue?

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 Posted 02/13/2017  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NH collector to your friends list
Years ago I had a similar problem. After trying the above methods, nothing seemed to work. An old time collector suggested heating the coin, then dipping it in ice water. The attached stuff came off in one piece, and the coins color was not harmed.

Also, old time glues (horse glues) are water soluble. Just an overnight soaking in water with a few drops of mild liquid dish detergent may help. Acetone will not work with horse glues.
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 Posted 02/13/2017  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steelers72 to your friends list
Is WD-40 safe for coin use? I don't want to use a method that would be considered harsh cleaning

Would heating the coin cause damage? I am trying to avoid inappropriate cleaning methods, so dish detergent will definitely be a no go.

I'll try the acetone. If that doesn't work, maybe I'll heat the coin and see if that works.

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 Posted 02/13/2017  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list
WD-40 should be safe, but it will leave an oily reside that you'd need to clean off with acetone or paint thinner.

Depending on how hot you heat the coin, it could cause damage in the form of surface oxides/weird toning to affect the coin. If you heat it too hot then the surfaces will permanently take the appearance of artificial or very dark toning.

Soaking in distilled water would be your best bet for a first go at it.
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 Posted 02/13/2017  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steelers72 to your friends list
I'll see if I have WD40 around and experiment with coins of no value.

Would soaking it in boiling water be considered too hot?

I have porcupine quills that I could use to gently scrape the glue off after an acetone or hot/boiling water soak. Since the quills are organic they don't cause abrasions (I was recommended to use them supplementary to acetone as per a past discussion here on the forum)
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 Posted 02/13/2017  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list
Boiling water should be fine, I just wouldn't go putting the coin in the oven or on a frying pan.

I would still be careful with the quill since it can scrape the surface by dragging particulate around. You can easily remove patina from an old silver coin by scratching it a few times with a fingernail, and that's roughly the same hardness as a quill.

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 Posted 02/13/2017  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
The quill idea is interesting. Never heard of that one.

I agree with llewellin to be careful. I would recommend an ordinary toothpick over a quill. Most softer woods can be easily scratched with a fingernail so that gives you an idea of hardness comparison.

Practicing is a good idea. I hope you get some good results and please share!
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 Posted 02/13/2017  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list
Good luck! I will be waiting for the "after" pic for sure.
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 Posted 03/03/2017  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steelers72 to your friends list
I finished the acetone soaking

First pic is after a single soaking. A large piece of glue basically fell right off. However, glue residue remained on the feathers and other features. See below

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The other pictures are after placing the coin in boiled water, using a light quill to remove debris. About 3 acetone soakings, which lasted a week and a half total, were done as well.


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The dark areas around the eagle are not glue, but rather toning that developed over time. this toning would be uniform throughout the coin had the glue not covered the middle portion of the coin. There is no glue residue left on the coin now.

Overall, I am actually very happy with this turn around. It is difficult to tell through pictures, but the toning on the reverse is actually pretty when rotated under light. The obverse also has a toning to it that I noticed when I put it in my Dansco. I find it to be an attractive coin despite the reverse being "uneven" in terms of patina and I placed this in my Dansco where it will stay. Cant complain when you only paid $40 for a coin that in XF condition would be $100+.

The finding from my experimenting is that acetone WILL remove glue that appears to be caked onto a coin- almost instantly. The glue flakes off and the bond between coin and glue is essentially "denatured" by the acetone. The only issue was that glue residue tends to stick to areas of high relief and in crevices- such as the feathers and in between letters. The boiled water was an excellent medium to use to further denature the glue. An organic pick such as a toothpick or porcupine quill (my preference) is an excellent way to lightly remove this residue without altering the surfaces of the coin in a negative manner.

Hopefully my experience helps those who consider buying coins afflicted with glue damage. I can attest that it is not a permanent damage all the time- and that it gives you an opportunity to turn profit on a coin with depreciated value due to the glue damage.
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 Posted 03/03/2017  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
Thanks for the update. I think that's a fantastic turnaround. Good job!

You definitely increased the value on that one.
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 Posted 03/03/2017  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list
I agree. I'm doing something similar with a man-on-the-moon coin that sat with a bunch of corroded pennies. It's fugly but I'll post before and afters when I'm done.
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 Posted 03/03/2017  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steelers72 to your friends list
Thank you both! I am super happy with the coin now. I'm glad I took the gamble on it.
Mike- I hope your coin has positive turn-around and I look forward to reading your results
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 Posted 03/03/2017  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Congratulations. Awesome result, and thank you for rescuing a great coin in distress!
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 Posted 03/03/2017  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list
I have tried removing glue by soaking the coin in hot water and it worked !
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 Posted 03/04/2017  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Great results.
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thank you just carl!
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