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Pillar of the Community
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I'm with Paulsz
65 possibly 66 but can't be sure from those pics
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Canada
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Yeah, I'd go with MS-65 or 66 as well. Nice coin!
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Pillar of the Community
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thanks for the replies all, and again, sorry about the lousy pictures..this thread is less of a you vs. TPG and more of a lesson on how important getting quality pictures of your coins is if you decide to ask for grading help. the 2 spots pointed out by Apitrix are nothing and don't even show in hand really. i was surprised by the range of grades given here but that is to be expected since grading can be subjective and since the images were such terrible quality. so here's the grade assigned by PCGS, which I by the way fully agree with, if I didn't I wouldn't have bought it, in fact I think this could push a + designation if sent in again for reconsideration. thanks for playing   Feel free to call me Will.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Quote:thanks for the replies all, and again, sorry about the lousy pictures..this thread is less of a you vs. TPG and more of a lesson on how important getting quality pictures of your coins is if you decide to ask for grading help. What are you using to take your images with? I have seen some very good images here taken with smartphones, point and shoot camera's and the more expensive DSLR camera's. The "Technique" being used usually has the greatest bearing on the image quality regardless of the equipment used to take the images. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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i used a samsung galaxy J1, the pictures it produces aren't too great from my experience, this wasn't a technique problem, it was a unique combination of the phone used, the coin's appearance and the slab getting in the way.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Australia
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i used a samsung galaxy J1 The phone could be having difficulty in focussing on the surface of the slab instead of the coin itself (auto focus)which will cause the images to be out of focus and blurry. I am not sure but I think there are some apps that can be used to give you more control options to be able to produce better images. I have a Samsung S7 and it takes a reasonable image with its 16mp camera but nothing as good as my Nikon DSLR because I don't know how to change the settings on my phone camera nor am I able to hold it perfectly still. I imagine that there are techniques to be able to overcome these shortcomings But with my very limited knowledge in using a smartphone to take coin images I usually end up with images pretty much the same as yours So you are definitely Not alone in this Mate  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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You know that it's impossible to offer a 67 with those supplied pics..  I didn't think that it was fair to you to just guess on it.. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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nice coin. What do you think ICCS would grade it?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Wow! MS67 Never would have guessed from those pics. You vs. TPG type threads are always at least 50% guesswork. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I was originally going to post PCGS ms65 and ICCS ms64.
My main reason was the small blemish on the high point of the cheek.
For all my preaching about ICCS only grades based on fields, well sometimes, as in the 1949 dollar, they key in on the high point of the cheek and it has to be flawless for ms66 and higher.
Maybe it's a whole lot nicer in-hand, but going from the picture, I would say absolute maximum grade is ms65.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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the high point of the cheek is more exaggerated in the pictures, like the previously mentioned spots..it isn't rub or anything but just a high point that isn't completely struck..not uncommon on these actually. and yes, it is LEAPS AND BOUNDS nicer in hand  a gorgeous coin to say the least..i met with Apitrix earlier today actually and he can vouch for how this thing is in hand(he posted his reply before we met up and before he knew the grade). @aghoarder I think it would get a MS-67 from ICCS  I sent some coins out for ICCS and considered cross grading it but figured i'd save that for a different submission when I have more to cross grade. Feel free to call me Will.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The coin is very nice in hand, looks almost PL, I am assuming one of the first strikes based on the detail apparent in this coin in hand. I believe that the strong strike helped this coin get the high grade, and the point on the cheek is not as noticeable in hand, only under certain lighting. Coin has a beautiful tone to it, much nicer than these photos entail. I would say the coin is a PCGS67, and depending on how ICCS is feeling, it would easily get a ms66, and a potential 67 depending on how picky Brian would be about the weak point on the cheek. All in all, quite a beautiful coin!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Why would you want to cross-grade a hard-slabbed PCGS 67 into a soft-plastic ICCS? It is the least valued silver dollar that Canada made and not worth ($$$-wise) a second opinion that well could be lower.
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Pillar of the Community
Taiwan
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ICCS will cross-grade a PCGS coin without removing it from the slab. They simply print an
ICCS tag with the pertinent information plus the PCGS certification number on it. I think it is a
great way to go depending on the situation. Case in point would be Dollarman's recent 1958
PL dollar. With an ICCS cross-grade he would get the Cameo designation it deserves.
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03/06/2017 07:36 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Why would you want to cross-grade a hard-slabbed PCGS 67 into a soft-plastic ICCS? It is the least valued silver dollar that Canada made and not worth ($$$-wise) a second opinion that well could be lower. when you cross-grade a coin, like said in the post above, you get ICCS's opinion and get to leave it in the slab. i don't think it's the least valued, it's a popular coin from the 40's and a one year commemorative, I've never seen these sell for melt like other silver dollars do..although it's quite possible you meant it's one of the most common of the KG VI series, which would be true. i think it would be worth it..i got this coin for what I think is a fair price and it'd never have come home with me if I wasn't fairly sure it would meet ICCS's and my standards for the grade. Feel free to call me Will.
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03/06/2017 10:07 am
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