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Bedrock of the Community
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i dont like the surfaces on either of them and when you are paying this kind of $$ i'd keep looking
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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AU-55 dipped.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6370 Posts |
AU on both, and both have been cleaned.
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Pillar of the Community
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I'd keep looking. They're rather unattractive.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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1) AU-55 Details.
2) AU-53 Details.
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Pillar of the Community
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Definitely AU's but with altered surfaces. I see a lot of raw Seated dollars like this floating on ebay. They usually have the title 'Choice BU +'. If they really were original why wouldn't the seller send them in for grading to capture the premium? Edited by MikeF
03/05/2017 10:45 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3479 Posts |
Seated dollars are one of the most frustrating coin types to collect. I'll point you in the right direction. This is what you want to look for when searching for an original sld and they are not easy to find. Patience is needed to collect this series.  
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Pillar of the Community
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Mike, I'd love to find one like that for 1859. I search for type coins for particular dates (see signature) so not just any old sld will do. That makes it even more frustrating.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Definitely two things: AU and cleaned!!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3843 Posts |
A lot of distracting marks on the coins shown in the OP and the surfaces of each coin are not ideal. AU-Details cleaned on each IMO.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks Mike, I kind of like the look of that first one, the EF. Fits in with the rest of my series.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Seated dollars are one of the most frustrating coin types to collect. Definitely true! Unlike Morgan dollars, the Seated dollars were not stored in government bags for many years with a couple of exceptions (1859-O and 1860-O). They were put into circulation. Advanced collectors like circulated Seated dollars that have gray to medium gray toning, but a lot of average collectors don't like that look. They prefer something that looks like the Mint State Morgan dollars, and that's where the trouble starts. Many Seated dollars have cleaned and dipped to make them look shiny. Sometimes, as is the case with the pieces that started this string, the coins are cleaned and can't get a straight grade from the TPGs. Coin doctors then apply a layer of artificial toning to fix that. Those coins also often "flunk" when they are submitted for grading. Unless you have a lot of money and can afford a high grade, Mint State Seated dollar, chances are you are not going to like a lot of the pieces that are offered. If you are on a strict budget, you might end up settling not selecting a coin you love, if you want it to have a straight TPG grade. Some of the pieces that have artificial toning can look decent. I had one in my type set for years. Here it is. This piece flunked at the TPGs when I submitted it for grading. When I was dealer I sold it to another dealer, with the explaination as to what it was. It would be a piece that would go very nicely into a Dansco 7070 type coin album.   Edited by billjones
03/07/2017 2:25 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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billjones, I like your '72 and I wouldn't know how to differentiate it from a coin that had built up that color all by itself. In fact, I have blue Ikes that are just that color from the failure of the seal on their mint wrapping. Maybe the next time I have money to squander I'll submit one of those Ikes and see how they come back.
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Pillar of the Community
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Some of the pieces that have artificial toning can look decent. Hence the reason that there are no value guides pricing cleaned coins. Because cleaned coins can range from atrocious eyesores, to others that have retoned over time and are quite beautiful, albeit ungradeable. |
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