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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I think a lot of the collecting has moved to online buying and selling. With the Internet, the younger generation doesn't need to go to coin shops/shows to buy what they are looking for. With the younger generation being so tech-savvy, this is what they are comfortable with.
I've said it before and I'll say it again -- If you want a boost in faith of what's going to happen with coin collecting, take a look at Instagram. There is a huge coin collector community there and the majority of the people running the accounts are under the age of 20.
I don't see this hobby as 'dead' at all. It's just that YN's have found other venues to share and collect. I agree with this statement. It sounds to me like the local coin shop guy may just be a bit sour because brick and mortar shops are losing out to the internet now and probably for good reason. Personally I don't think rare coins collecting is loosing steam at all. Just take a look at how much is being sold via Heritage Auctions, Great Collections, Stack's Bowers, and certainly ebay. It's just changing the way it gets to the collector. And if per chance that shop owner is right and rare coin collecting is going to die then yippy for me because I'll be buying up all those coins that everyone doesn't want anymore 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
There's no way to develop a real understanding of coins and their subtleties, much less how to actually grade and value them, trading on the internet. A fool's errand.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3843 Posts |
Most of the brick and mortar coin dealers in my area have very little for the collector and when they have something nice it is usually overpriced compared to similar coins online or at shows. Most of their business comes from a). buying collections, that they flip quickly online or to wholesalers OR b). buying/selling bullion to investors. The B&M coin shop as a hub for the collecting community is largely dead. I'm very bearish in brick and mortar retail in general, there are a lot of empty commercial real estate out there currently and with once proud brands shuttering stores constantly I don't think that is going to change.
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Valued Member
United States
104 Posts |
Ive spent thousands of dollars annually at my LCS and would think they could maybe be a little more patient and not hurry me and other customers up. For God sakes I'm there twice a month for 30 -45 min each trip. They don't know I'm bitter and have been curious why I have been coming by less and less this past 6 months. It's because I find better stock and service at shows and online which is sad. Also when I try to sell a coin those other avenues pay more than my LCS by multiples. Needed to get this off my chest and feel it's unfair of me to not let them know how I feel. Especially since I caught the coin bug in that shop 5 years ago. Ok I feel better
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3789 Posts |
Interesting share there and I have to agree with that coin shop owner and am in the camp of those who are of the belief that the younger generations are just not into coins. I am not saying there are ZERO young people coming into the hobby, its just that there is not enough young people to replace those who are aging. Its interesting that what that coin shop owner mentions about bullion collectors over any other category fits me. I started out with Mercury dimes and some Buffalo nickels but once I saw the silver eagles, that was IT. I never ever got back into anything but bullion after the eagles. It went from silver eagles to gold eagles then I was out of collecting, then I got back and ran with the ball with world bullion coins. I see it this way- 1- Yes, we have young collectors coming in, but again, not enough and no where near what was in previous generations. 2- This trend of an older aging collector group versus newer younger collectors has gathered steam and momentum and isn't changing. Look at what the US Mint said recently, their biggest core, strongest base of customers are NOT younger people but a very older group. 3- It takes bucks to collect coins. As much as I dont want to be negative about the economy, the fact is younger generations are making a whole lot LESS than ever before. Heck, you cant even go out in Wall Street anymore and expect to get a job in financial services and make huge bucks. EVERY WHERE there are job cuts and jobs are not coming back. Younger folks are going to really be limited where their money goes. 4- There are LOTS of other things to get into besides coins. Coins arent cool enough. You have to have some sort of connection to coins, a strong interest in some subject that connects you to coins. There are a lot of things vying for ones attention besides coins. The internet is a big distraction, sure it can be a path to getting folks into coins but something else will pop up quickly. Things look bleak. I dont think coin collecting dies off but going forward a lot of less people will be involved. I have observed other hobbies where this happens- there is atrophy in the core demographic paired with an expensive hobby and usually what happens is not that the hobby goes extinct but rather it just limps along, the hobby becomes even more expensive and never ever grows again or gets back to where it was. So coin collecting will always be around. But its going to be a very small finite group of collectors around a hobby that continues to get expensive. BTW- I think this problem is centralized to those living here in the USA.
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Valued Member
United States
397 Posts |
Great topic paralyse! Quote: There's no way to develop a real understanding of coins and their subtleties, much less how to actually grade and value them, trading on the internet. A fool's errand. I couldn't agree more coinfrog! With the juiced and poor photography, and let's not forget the counterfeits, I find it very difficult to pull the trigger on a $500 coin that I haven't seen or held physically. I'm 54 years old and been self employed most of those years and getting prepared to semi-retire. I would love to open a brick and mortar store, but honestly don't see it in the cards. In the heavily populated areas they continue to work and probably will continue into the future. I see many, if not most of those businesses incorporating the internet as well. As for the YN's we all have much to compete with to grab their attention for a second to look at a coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36782 Posts |
Great post Adam. Times are changing for all retailers. The internet is replacing the old brick and mortar stores. eBay/eCrater and other sites are the new source for what you use to only get by walking into a coin shop. Kids these days have the attention span of a nat so collecting is something they just don't get into anymore. Electronic games and smart phones are where their interests lie and their money goes. Maybe as they grow older and have more money, an interest in coins will take hold, even if only as a form of investment. But the numbers will be far smaller than it was for us "boomers" and something will have to spark that desire. There will always be collectors, just not the numbers that there once was.
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Valued Member
United States
379 Posts |
whenever I buy a coin, I show it to my kid, let him handle it (protected), explain what it is and how it is special, etc. why? because he will receive the coins when I am gone.
he has NO interest in coin collecting, all I am trying to do is to keep him from going to my bank after I die, empty the safe deposit box, and head straight for a cash-for-gold place.
most kids today are just not the same as in older generation kids. most do not know how even to change the oil in their cars, or even bother to check the oil level... it is nothing on their minds.
so we now have a generation of kids who have blown-up cars, have no clue as to how to progress through life or to help themselves, deal with idiots and the government, etc.
it is a sad state of affairs. I tried, but it does little good for 80-90% of kids today... they are worthless, despit how hard you try to guide them.
mike
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: There's no way to develop a real understanding of coins and their subtleties, much less how to actually grade and value them, trading on the internet. A fool's errand. Internet sales actually have return privileges for the vast majority now. The majority of coin business is internet base now and almost all of next generation collection is from the internet. Antiquated way of thinking in all honesty
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
There are fools in every generation, and especially among those who think they can buy and sell online without solid hands-on experience over many years.
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Valued Member
United States
467 Posts |
I tend to agree with basebal21.
You can gain that experience online. You still get the coin in hand. The major change is you make your final "in hand" decision after you pay, not before you pay. You return and you learn, at times.
If the only way to become adept and understand coin collecting in depth does not include the internet, then I do not see a bright future for coin collecting outside of mint sets, TGP slabbed coins and OGP. The future will only become more and more online.
Edited by crazyglue 04/11/2017 08:14 am
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Moderator
 United States
188770 Posts |
We are still in a transitional period. The online generation of coin dealers will continue to mature and gain experience. The only remaining advantage of in-person purchases will be the tangible observation, but even that will continue to erode as digital representation improves.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
I think you mean transitional period.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4212 Posts |
Very comprehensive read. Concerning YNs, I've met some, so advanced in the
knowledge of numismatics, it's almost spooky. I dont see the hobby going
anywhere soon, but becomming more specialized in the various niches.
I believe they will be responsible for waking the sleeper series.
Edited by fioti 04/11/2017 11:51 am
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Moderator
 United States
188770 Posts |
Quote: I think you mean transitional period. Yes. I corrected the auto-correct. 
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