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Considering there's only one known in existence..It's probably the Rarest Canadian Large Cent variety. The only other comparable Large Cent (Regular Strike) Reeded Edge coin is the American variety. PCGS_POP Report: https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...edge-bn/1383 |
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I had/have never heard of a reeded edge Vicky cent. I didn't think that the presses and apparati even allowed them to be possible to be made. As a joke ... it doesn't have any Chinese markings on it does it?
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Canada
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The coin seems to be genuine, but I wonder if the reeded edge is authentic... the reeded collar used had to have the exact same diameter as a canadian large cent (25.4mm)
PCGS took a big risk by grading this completely undocumented and, so far, unique variety...
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Edited by Dollar 1935
02/15/2023 09:39 am
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What is the weight of this reeded variety ? My bad didn"t look hard enough at PCGS answer is there
Edited by john100
02/15/2023 12:38 pm
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Curious why they don't list the 1891 sdll and sdsl varieties?
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This thread is over 5 years old and the entry with the list of PCGS varieties was submitted by a collector, not PCGS. Btw, the OP of this thread is no longer a member on here. PCGS recognizes all the 1891 varieties.
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The reeding looks a bit suspicious to me. I am not a minting expert, but I don't see how this could happen unless the cent was minted with a collar for another coin. This would not match the quarter or a British shilling. I don't know what else might have been minted in 1898 of this approximate size with reeding but nothing comes to mind.
Now that it is in a holder it can't really be examined properly. So I think trying to sell this coin could prove to be difficult unless the price is much lower than you would expect.
I always ask which is more likely....that this is a forgery or that this is a mysterious mint product that makes little sense. I would guess forgery.
Edited by Smallcentguy
02/15/2023 3:26 pm
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Canada
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Regarding the 1898H Reeded Edge Large Cent: "This advertising token that was made after 1889 but before 1900. The Mint could have made these every year or just as needed, so an exact year is not known. You can see the reeded edge. The size of this token is 25.7mm and 6.3 grams - just a slight bit larger than a Victorian 1 Cent. There is also a nickel version and an aluminum version with a reeded edge. #8232;#8232;I also checked in 'A Numismatic History of The Birmingham Mint' by James O. Sweeny to see what other coins were minted by The Birmingham Mint around 1898 that were of similar size & composition of a Canadian 1 Cent piece but had a reeded edge. They minted Russian Kopeks in 1898. The 2 Kopecks were copper 24.2mm, 6.6g and also had a reeded edge. They are not the exact size, but it shows that The Mint Birmingham were minting coins with a reeded edge during the same time period." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_Mint  Edited by coin14
02/15/2023 10:43 pm
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The reeding on the advertising token does not match your cent photo so that collar was not used.
The photo of the token also shows a typical deep reeding.
Sorry but I think you got lucky with an altered cent and got matched a grader that did not know much about Canadian coins and just wrote what you submitted on the holder without understanding the implications.
I continue to think forgery.
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New Member
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I appreciate your opinions and just wanted to share first hand knowledge on the 1898H Canada Reeded Edge (Regular Strike) Large Cent...Fortunately, many prominent Canadian Coin Dealer's and Specialists were able to examine it before PCGS submission and endorsed authenticity. Very rare coin and in the best holder with plenty of interested buyers.
Happy Hunting!!
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I am kicking this back up to the top of the list.
There are many large cent and error experts who have not weighed in.
People need to risk expressing an opinion that proves to be wrong.
Those who have expertise and stay silent are...........
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Well, I too think that something is amiss, as I stated earlier. The Canadian large cents were made to the exact standards of the Brit half penny and had been for years. I don't think that Heaton had collars for reeded coins. I think that it's an altered coin that may have been altered at the mint, post-strike, but who knows. I am a large cent variety specialist and I think that it's not right. PCGS makes enough glaring errors that this doesn't surprise me.
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Some dealings with PCGS to attribute something new, they need a Canadian expert or a well known Canadian dealer in the field for their advice. I am guessing PCGS did this route on this coin, wonder who was the experts PCGS contacted ?
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Good question @John100. This important find is almost 7 yrs old already and there hasn't been alot of discussion about it because only the Top Canadian dealers have seen it and know of it's existence. I'm sure you just need to ask a few of them and you will find your answers..
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