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On genuine coins the denticles meet the rim. On the fake the denticles do not meet the rim. On genuine coins the rim is flat. On the fake the rims are not flat (and show no signs of wear - not matching the supposed wear on the rest of this coin).  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Seems clear that the subject coin is a fake.
Edited by Coinfrog
05/17/2017 7:33 pm
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United States
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Four people posted that it looked real, might be real or might not be fake.
Five people posted that was fake.
My vote: fake
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Your analysis seems logical. Must agree. The reeding issue is overwhelming.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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nss-52 reasonings clearly show the subject coin is a fake.
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Bedrock of the Community
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BH1964, I am taking a leap of faith on what has been presented but what I have been taught (I might not have been taught correctly also) is that it is almost impossible to get the weight even close enough to an original weight without the coin being off in diameter or thickness. So if this is a cast fake (a cast to me would mean exact diameter) then how is the weight this close? Maybe too thick? I see that the weight is a little bit high (26.78 compared to 26.73 original) but I would think that the digital scale could be a little off? HeyMikeP: The weight, diameter and thickness of good counterfeits can be perfect re: mint specifications because they are made of 90% silver just as the originals were. Whether this piece was cast or die-struck is hard to say but it's clearly not an original (and very scarce) 1872-CC dollar. |
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United States
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Pretty sure it's a fake in one glance. The rims on SLD's should be noticeably wider or thicker than any other dollars. A cast counterfeit. The ribbon with the motto is very weak and the fields are bumpy. Plus Liberty's head looks creepy.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't think its real, you can go ahead and try ANACs and see but I think it will come back as a fake
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I am also thinking the coin in question is a fake.
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Rest in Peace
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I always look mat the stars, especially on the right side they get really out of normal shape/size.
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Typecoin971973, I have seen the granular finish from other fakes before but usually it covers the entire surface of the coin not the high points. I do not see the granular surface in the fields. It looks like the coin has been through alot but I still think it can be a legitimate coin. Check out the spark erosion process. The granular dies can always have had the fields smoothed by being polished. |
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United States
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This is one of my fakes. Note how the surfaces are PL and smooth and the devices are granular and mushy like the OP coin.   |
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If it's fake - it's a good one. I think this is a horrible fake, not even close to a "good one". Perhaps this is why so many fakes get bids and even sell. Sebastian, you were wise to come here and get opinions. What do you plan to do with the coin? |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Numerous issues in the devices and surface, it is not genuine, imo
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Posted 05/17/2017 7:32 pm
