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Grrrrrr Sad PVC Damage. Key Dates Damaged By PVC.. Including 1909-S Vbd

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 Posted 06/11/2017  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
What a shame. It could probably improve a little with some conservation but not enough to straight grade.

I'd say it's VF Details.
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 Posted 06/11/2017  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list
@Mark1959 they were sitting in the holders for many years sadly. PVC albums with slots for the coins. Obverse and reverse directly in contact with the pvc. Verdi-care would not help IMO... The PVC has already eaten away at some of the surface of the coin.
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 Posted 06/11/2017  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Man oh man, that is SAD.

VF details, I'd send it to NCS although I have my doubts whether they'll even attempt to conserve it. I'm afraid the spots are permanent. Nonetheless, even a details SVDB is pretty valuable.

Either way, the corrosion must be dealt with ASAP. But I'd use NCS first - if they refuse, you're on your own devices.

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BTW - It looks authentic to me. I think I see the die chip in the upper loop of the S. That's my favorite diagnostic!
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 Posted 06/11/2017  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CollegeBarbers to your friends list
Wow that's horrible, it looks to be permanent I would say VF-20 Details as well. It would have been a nice coin...
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 Posted 06/12/2017  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
VF-20 Details.
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 Posted 06/12/2017  02:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list
yikes! The value of those just dropped quite a bit....sucks
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 Posted 06/12/2017  05:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list
So very sad indeed.

Unfortunately coin collectors at the time
were not aware of the damaging effects of PVC.
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 Posted 06/12/2017  06:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Slight corrosion damage yes, but I don't think PVC damage.
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 Posted 06/12/2017  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
, More like corrosion than PVC damage .
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 Posted 06/12/2017  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list
Yeah, not PVC damage IMO.
A lot of my earlier lincoln cents came from my local pawn shop, I bought an old 1960s ish album made out of PVC. Those coins had almost a film on them, which went away after a couple treatments with acetone (i'll admit I used a few Q tips as well, not recommended for high value coins)
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 Posted 06/12/2017  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list
That is sad. I would still buy the coin, at a reduced rate of course, but it would still make for a good 09-S VDB.
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 Posted 06/12/2017  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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More like corrosion than PVC damage .


One in the same, the degraded PVC residue contains hydrochloric acid which forms copper chloride (a form of verdigris).
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I think I see the die chip in the upper loop of the S. That's my favorite diagnostic!


Which S?
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 Posted 06/12/2017  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Agree not PVC damage, more like condensation at some point - perhaps stored in a high humidity area. Whatever the reason, a real shame.
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 Posted 06/12/2017  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Ouch.

I agree with BadThad, the 1909-S VDB is probably worth the expense to send in for conservation.
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