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You Vs ICCS: 1944 Victory 5 Cents

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 Posted 06/18/2017  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
i thought back to a batch of pics I took a while ago..i completely forgot it included pics of this coin..to my surprise it had crappier obverse pics and a much better reverse pic

grr so much stuff on the holder though, mainly over the 44..
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06/18/2017 6:59 pm
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 Posted 06/18/2017  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list
SP65 for me
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 Posted 06/19/2017  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
That last pic looks SP for sure..That rim says it all..and that nice mirror cameo on the rev..
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 Posted 06/19/2017  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
bumphave fun guessing everyone!
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 Posted 06/20/2017  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nikon to your friends list
sp 60
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 Posted 06/20/2017  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
I am thinking SP-65 from those pictures.
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 Posted 06/20/2017  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
with Nikon, SP60

Quote:
areas where the strike wasn't completely full..they stand out much more
That and the significantly off-center strike make this one sub-par by a mile.


Imagine this coin was presented to a high ranking Russian official at the end of his visit to the mint. (such was the purpose of specimen strikes) On his way back to the embassy he buys a newspaper, receives a nickel in change and notices the shiny new one the newsboy gives up without a thought is so well struck and centered, his gift has been an insult from his ally, fuel to start the Cold War.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 06/20/2017  10:02 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
i wouldn't say this coin is sub par..

it isn't off center..the obverse die is just slightly misaligned..it is actually quite interesting and unusual on a specimen. and the areas of weakness aren't an issue..they are easily observed on other examples..it is a common occurrence, check PCGS's pop report..their finest example, an SP-67 has an identically 'weak' strike which consists of just a lack of frosting at the very highest points.

I'm not sure why either of these occurrences on this obviously very clean, attractive coin would downgrade it to an SP-60 grade
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 Posted 06/20/2017  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
results will be posted sometime tomorrow morning..

get your guesses in!
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 Posted 06/20/2017  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list
Darned Russians in every convo these days!

I'm still at sp 65.

1937 dollar specimen, rim issues on the matte issue, they still grade 65 and better

The alignment does not change my opinion.

Beauty coin!

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 Posted 06/20/2017  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apitrix to your friends list
I'm with Alan, plus the pictures don't do the coin justice I believe. Due to it being in 2 slabs of plastic, it would most likely be a stunner to see in person. I am firm at a sp65 in today's grading world. A real pleasing coin!
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 Posted 06/20/2017  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
oh no! the Russians hacked my coin!
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 Posted 06/20/2017  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apitrix to your friends list
Make Canada SP's trump again!
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 Posted 06/21/2017  09:08 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
here you go everyone..lots guessed SP-65..i guess it's possible, seeing as this is a nice coin in an old embossed holder.
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 Posted 06/21/2017  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list
Great coin!

No cameo designation?
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