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Pillar of the Community
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I had a 1972P on hand so I did a quick side by side not the best though (they really help me). The eye brow area is of course raised so maybe with the die crack running through the middle of the eye it is giving it more of a 3-D effect?   |
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Yes that whole part looks to be overlapping the top of the eye.
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Well the only other thing that comes to mind is a Lamination peel - still attached. It is just such a strange location and doesn't quite look like the normal Lam (it's a little too neat and smooth).
Hope someone else to help out as well.
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Well the only other thing that comes to mind is a Lamination peel - still attached. It is just such a strange location and doesn't quite look like the normal Lam (it's a little too neat and smooth). My thoughts exactly... I found someone who has a 1971P Kennedy half with nearly the identical mark in same place. He sent it into Wexler to have it looked at and Wexler called it PMD. I have seen photos of his coin and yes it is virtually identical in size, shape, and location to the mark on this coin. I know they couldn't possibly be made from the same die. Having said that what are the chances that 2 coins from different mints have identical marks made from PMD in such and odd location? Edited by MontCollector
07/20/2017 9:46 pm
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Well then my only other thought would be to ask (PM) BJ or JC at COC to take a look at it. You could probably send it in to one of them depending on what they respond with on the post. Good luck - it is strange that there would be 2 of them. I just had a similar situation happen on one of my posts if you want to check it out. http://goccf.com/t/292550 |
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Quote:I have seen photos of his coin and yes it is virtually identical in size, shape, and location to the mark on this coin. I know they couldn't possibly be made from the same die. Having said that what are the chances that 2 coins from different mints have identical marks made from PMD in such and odd location? While it does seem unlikely to see such similar damage, dollar coins were used at casinos for ages and ages. The slot machines and change machines are probably made by just a few different companies. So, considering the millions of coins that go around and around in those machines, I think it is reasonably possible to assume that's where you might find identical damage.  |
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That is a great theory Buddy. I am not a gambling person so I didn't even think of that. edited: added the following I find this really interesting, had to do some googling about the coin slot machines and one of the articles was an old CCF post from 2008. Even in that time period most of the machine were all electronic (I know in the 70's & 80's and probably 90's that they were the norm so that would explain this scenario) just curious though why does the Mint still make the halves & dollars? About a month ago I used an SBA dollar at the local gas station, the cashier didn't even know what it was. She had never seen a dollar coin before - I truly had to convince her that it was real. Edited by CoinCents
07/21/2017 8:45 pm
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While it does seem unlikely to see such similar damage, dollar coins were used at casinos for ages and ages. The slot machines and change machines are probably made by just a few different companies. So, considering the millions of coins that go around and around in those machines, I think it is reasonably possible to assume that's where you might find identical damage. Wow..Hadn't thought of that one. Could very well be. Whatever it is, it is getting put in a 2x2...just in case. |
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Yeah, I'd keep it in a 2X2, too.
The slot machine idea is a flat out guess and there's always a chance there's a more interesting reason.
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I was going to ask before but, since you posted that link showing one: can you get a low-angle closeup shot of the eye area from the southwest? It is difficult to see topography straight on. My journeyman opinion so far is against PMD. I think it's great that there is so much discussion concerning a very small thing! When our detail-oriented powers combine...  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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I was going to ask before but, since you posted that link showing one: can you get a low-angle closeup shot of the eye area from the southwest? It is difficult to see topography straight on. I will give it a shot sometime tomorrow. This is not going to be an easy shot. |
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In my opinion it is a Strike Doubling,have seen numerous examples of it,it is cool! |
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A bi-level die crack would be a lot more interesting than slot machine damage.  |
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Okay so I tried until my camera battery went dead and cannot get a clear photo at the angle needed to show topography. Comes out too blurry or I have to get so close it is unrecognizable...sorry guys.
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