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Bedrock of the Community
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I agree. Just a small Die Chip that filled the "B" in "LIBERTY".
Errers and Varietys.
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Rest in Peace
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Called die "break" folk! Sheesh! The center portion of the die for these circular devices breaks off at the lowest point INSIDE the device, a letter or number like R, B, 9, 8. Get it right! Aacht! Due liber! 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Lol! I thought it would be a Die Chip because of the size, but I guess not. Sometimes I have trouble telling the differences.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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herzlich willkommen!  to the CCF!
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Quote: Lol! I thought it would be a Die Chip because of the size, but I guess not. Sometimes I have trouble telling the differences.
It is a chip if you call it that; the terms are not defined as strictly as they ought to be in numismatics anyway. Personally, I see this as a "chip" because the term "Die Break" (to me) implies a linearity of development from a die crack. The generally accepted notion of the difference between "chips" and "breaks" is one of size only. And nobody agrees what that size specifically is. 
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Bedrock of the Community
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I agree with you SsuperDdave. Size is the only difference. Just like you said, if connect to a Die Crack, it's a Die Break.
Errers and Varietys.
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Here's where the difference lies between chip or break within a device, using OPs coin as primary example. This "break", caused the center "post" of the lower portion of the B to shear off at its lowest point, the same depth(actual height on coin). The resultant filling of the cavity COMPLETELY closed that area as seen here, is filled and worn flat with use. Now, when the edge of the incuse "donut" chips off, fills in only a portion of the area, it is a "die chip". Eventually this continues to chip away, breaking the "donut hole maker" post away, filling in the hole. It has now progressed from a simple "die chip" to a " die break". Now, ya got it? Again, sheesh! 
Edited by Crazyb0 08/29/2017 6:36 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Crazyb0, I get it now. Just needed to know the difference. Thank you for getting into detail and explaining it to me. Now I know the difference. Now you can stop doing this:  . 
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Once again the Forum hammers out a pesky issue.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: I agree with you SsuperDdave. Size is the only difference. Dave that is a statement that can rein throughout this thread!
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Bedrock of the Community
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 Anyway,at least we know what the error is.
Errers and Varietys.
Edited by Errers and Varietys 08/29/2017 7:54 pm
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New Member
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You know, I have been collecting coins since I was a child, with it becoming more of an active hobby these last few months. And as much as I enjoy collecting, seeing new and different varieties, and learning about coins and the processes involved with producing them, I have not become completely educated in the exact terms and precise wording involved in "professional" numismatology. I have recently (a couple of days ago) registered for an account on this forum, however I am having second thoughts about 1. Posting anything new 2. Commenting or replying to anything already started or 3. Even keeping my account active after reading this one page. I am not sure that I belong in a place where a person cannot use a slightly incorrect term without being treated like a child or talked to like they are Forrest Gump's half-wit child.
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Bedrock of the Community
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We all weren't Einsteins when we started school. It takes time to learn. Give it some time. Do a lot of reading. Read the first information, stop there and consider what you feel it is. Then.. Read below to see what the answers are. We don't force you to think like us. You can adjust your thinking as time goes along. I try to relate exactly what I'm seeing on a coin, rather than just giving a yes or no answer. The illustrations I use and patience to teach has help many here. So give it some time. Josephrice. 
Edited by coop 01/03/2018 3:49 pm
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 to the Community, Josephrice! Do give us a chance. All are welcome here. 
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Rest in Peace
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 Josephrice One of the great problems with posting is that only the original poster knows for certain the tone they chose to convey their message. Someone might write something thinking that they are conveying some light-hearted teasing. But when read by someone else it just seems mean. I hope you'll stick around and post freely.
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