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I just checked icollector, the $110 for the MS-63 German Planchet twoonie is shocking... I have a whole tube full of MS-63 German planchets... I wonder what my PCGS MS-65 German planchets would sell for?
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. I have a whole tube full of MS-63 German planchets.. Would you like to lighten that tube up a bit for some of your "fine feathered friends" ? |
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I had to miss this auction... any idea if the popularity of the variety market warmed up enough to see these ones hammered down?
The Cents - which are my interest - did not do very well. |
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The Canadian Coin Market , which is the interest of many is not doing very well at all!
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The Cents - which are my interest - did not do very well. If a larger net is now being cast (as suggested by SPP) by some auction houses then it might be a proper location to set a "no minimum reserve" and see what these varieties do sell for and then reset the varieties values in the book listings.... It seems that many of the previous varieties listings are now out of whack.. Okie has also mentioned before that many were never properly listed in the first place as to a correct value for the grade and that specific variety. No minimum is the way to go, and then everything sells at the present proper market value.... You see a lot of that in the HA auctions.. |
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To put things in perspective...the 1921 50c did not sell, nor did the 1935 Patenaude $20,000 countermark. The auction was inexplicably held on a Thursday, which did not help. As for starting varieties at "no minimum reserve" to "see what these varieties do sell for"...I encourage anyone with a high end large cent collection, maybe Rob Turner, or Okiecoiner, etc...to put their collections up starting at $1 and "see what happens"...  the variety market is not fully established yet, but progress has been made in the last few years... It's still a struggle just to get SOME varieties attributed properly into hard slabs Edited by canadian-varieties
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To sell any better Canadian Coin , variety or not , at auction with NO reserve these days , would be financial suicide and a trip to the Good Doctors Psych Couch would be in order.
It is fallacy to think that high end coins are offered in US or European Auctions at truly NO Reserve .
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The auction was inexplicably held on a Thursday, which did not help. I suggest a history lesson is in order. Back in the Canadian numismatic heyday when over a thousand collectors used to attend Torex, all the major auctions held were Thursday and Friday nights only. This is when the majority of dealers at Coin Expo (who happen to be the biggest bidders and buyers) in the Bell auctions, prefer it. This gives collectors and dealers alike a full day of viewing lots, prior to opening the bourse. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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It is fallacy to think that high end coins are offered in US or European Auctions at truly NO Reserve I'm not suggesting "high end" coins. They will always have their proper place. I saw a lot of middle of the road "new blue label" varieties that did not have realistic starting prices.. A lot of fees and tons of unsold lots is what I did see..and they just keep coming back again and again from auction house to the next auction house.. Can't imagine so many lots not moving and so much wasted time going from coin to coin.. |
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Edited by canadian-varieties
10/04/2017 03:16 am
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I see that someone should go on a restricted diet and not just on trying to move coins. ...but there still is a certain "spring" in his step..  |
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The Bell auctions always start at about 1/2 of the estimate. So in the absence of anything else, that would be a reserve.
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I suggest a history lesson is in order. Back in the Canadian numismatic heyday when over a thousand collectors used to attend Torex, all the major auctions held were Thursday and Friday nights only.
Signature auctions associated with major shows in the US - and most major standalones - are held on weekdays. The auction is usually Wednesday and Thursday nights for a 4-day show. For the record, SPP-Ottawa, the 2018 World's Fair of Money is here in Philadelphia....600km straight down Interstate 81.... |
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" I suggest a history lesson is in order. Back in the Canadian numismatic heyday when over 1000 collectors used to
attend TOREX, all the major auctions held were Thursday and Friday nights only. "
The Canadian numismatic heyday for me was the 1990's to the late 2000's when I used to attend TOREX on a regular
basis. Michael Walsh would hold the TOREX auction and his sales were on Friday and Saturday evening. Only on a couple of occasions were they started on a Thursday. Prior to Michael Walsh, Jeffrey Hoare held TOREX auctions and they were Friday and Saturday affairs. I think Charles Moore started the Thursday format with his Feb 2009 TOREX auction.
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For the record, SPP-Ottawa, the 2018 World's Fair of Money is here in Philadelphia....600km straight down Interstate 81.... Of course, it is in August... I NEVER get to coin shows in the summertime. That is when I am swatting mosquitoes and shooing away bears in the Great White North... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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