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Maryland Quarter With Mad Reverse

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 Posted 09/23/2017  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list

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So we got MAD error


Not MAD error as it is equally off on both sides. MAD effects only one side of said coin.
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 Posted 09/23/2017  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BoojiBoyTravis to your friends list

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Not a MAD error as it is equally off on both sides


So are you saying that whatever is on the obverse is actually a related error to the reverse and therefore not a MAD error? What do you think it is?
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09/23/2017 4:13 pm
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 Posted 09/23/2017  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list

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So are you saying that whatever is on the obverse is actually a related error to the reverse and therefore not a MAD error? What do you think it is?


Yes. And seeing Mike Diamond is widely known error coin specialist I would go by what he said.
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 Posted 09/23/2017  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BoojiBoyTravis to your friends list
So how much extra value do we have with this coin considering that it's actually a broadstrike error?
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 Posted 09/23/2017  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
A broad strike would have no reeds on the edge of the coin. A mad would have reeds and only one side would be off centered. I would like to see the edge on this one.
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 Posted 09/23/2017  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BoojiBoyTravis to your friends list
Maryland-Quarter-With-Mad-Reverse

Here you go coop! Still think this might be a MAD error although I'm still a bit unsure about the obverse, so many inputs
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09/23/2017 8:06 pm
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 Posted 09/23/2017  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list

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Still think this might be a MAD error


Here's some information you will find helpful in knowing some information on a MAD coin!

http://www.Lincolncentforum.com/mis...ter-strikes/
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 Posted 09/23/2017  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BoojiBoyTravis to your friends list
Better grab the popcorn and wait for a majority response on what it is
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Not a MAD coin as only one side would be off center. I think this might be a Partial Collar error by the looks of it. If it was a Off Center strike, then the letters and details would be cut off and missing. Just a good guess NOT because I'm correct
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I agree. it might be a partial collar. (that is what it looks like from the image)
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Coop, if it might be a Partial Collar error, then it's a great one do to all of the misalignment.
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 Posted 09/24/2017  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
There is nothing stopping an uncentered broadstrike from having partial contact with the collar, which may have been only partly deployed. And the collar contact I see is brief indeed. Is the coin presented here exactly the same diameter as a "normal" Quarter? If not, then it has not been fully constrained by the collar and is therefore, by definition, a broadstrike. It certainly looks to have far more "space" added to the left side (the "broad" one) than subtracted from the right side.
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Is this coin presented here exactly the same diameter as a "normal" Quarter?


I just compared it to a quarter without issues and it seems to be intact in the diameter department, same size as what a quarter should be.
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I just compared it to a quarter without issues and it seems to be intact in the diameter department, same size as what a quarter should be.


Interesting. Is the reeding you showed in your pic the only reeding on the coin, or how complete is it? A collar is required to force the final diameter to exactly Quarter size, and if the collar is holding it, then it should be reeded. Note, the diameter difference could be pretty small.

Furthermore, if the reeding isn't present in some location, that should be where the coin's diameter is allowed to increase. A partial collar will still constrain a planchet, but at that point some metal should spill over the area where the collar can't hold it, much like foam from a beer you poured too quickly.

So, I should expect the reeding to be pretty much complete on the right side of your coin, and nearly absent on the left. Weak on the right, possibly, because there isn't "pushback" from the left side to force the planchet against the reeding, but present. Both faces are pretty accurately struck, implying the dies were correctly located relative to each other, so the only "error" here seems to be with the collar.

And - correct me if I'm wrong - it's how "present" or not that collar is, which is the dividing line between "partial collar strike" and "broadstrike." What I cannot define is whether or not a broadstrike requires complete absence of the collar, or not. I don't set those definitions.

Fun coin.
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 Posted 09/25/2017  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BoojiBoyTravis to your friends list
That's the only area where there's reeding, goes into the coin's faces, causing the die misalignment. Reeding not actually present on the coin's faces, but I think the images can explain for themselves
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