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I'm beginning to understand how difficult these are to find without problems. I looked at roughly 40 "problem free" PCGS and NGC Seated dollars at a show a couple weeks back. every single one of them were hairlined. All were in the VF-AU range. The most "problem free" example I saw was an ANACS "cleaned" example. Dealer wanted problem free money for it. I digress, great coin 53-55 in my opinion agree with BH the only real distracting is spot around the mouth. |
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I'll go AU-58 beautiful example.
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au53-55 with some remaining luster. Very nice detail, but I would skip "scarface" and look for one not scratched in the worst and most prominent place possible on the coin.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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She is a beauty! One day, one day...
Anyway, for this example I am in the mid AU range.
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Quote:I'm beginning to understand how difficult these are to find without problems. I looked at roughly 40 "problem free" PCGS and NGC Seated dollars at a show a couple weeks back. every single one of them were hairlined. All were in the VF-AU range. The most "problem free" example I saw was an ANACS "cleaned" example. Dealer wanted problem free money for it. Welcome to my world. If you went to a show that had 40 slds for sale that alone Is highly unusual. I bet the dealers had more stashed in their private collections. That's part of the problem. The really choice original slds are hoarded and rarely come up for auction. When they do you better be prepared to pay up for them. |
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Agree.  |
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I'm in at 53, but I'd believe 55. I would not be surprised if it were deemed "unoriginal surfaces" two times out of five at a TPG; the obverse is particularly odd. |
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This one is graded au-55 but is not original. Lacks the crusty look. Cleaned and retoned. Get's the straight grade as do so many coins in this series.
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Storage conditions dictate much of toning and appearance. Crusty doesn't always mean original nor does a lack of it always mean cleaned. Sure is possible it was cleaned decades ago but there are no signs of it in these images.
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Pillar of the Community
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The obverse is a dead giveaway. This one has been cleaned and retoned. Might be acceptable to some folks, but not for me. Eye appeal just isn't there.
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