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its not cleaned, dont touched
Unless you've owned it for the last 158 years, you can't say that for sure. Just because you didn't clean it doesn't mean somebody else didn't.  All the same, there is enough doubt in the images so I will not say for sure that it's been cleaned. It has the technical merit of a decent XF example, and would sell for something over US$75 if in a straight-graded TPG slab. It is, of course, not certain that it would receive such a slab. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks nice and original. XF-40.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
legiux - Is this in fact a good representation of the color?
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Have to agree with the funny color camp. Still looks XF.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The first thing that came to my mind was '' Cleaned '' . Look at the black color between feather tips , right under bust and in and around the E & T in the word one cent on reverse . Sorry but this is not an original coin .  |
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United States
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First year of issue for U.S. Indian Head cent. I agree that it looks like a Cu/Ni cent that has been harshly cleaned at some time in the past. But, nice detail remains on the devices. "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The first thing that came to my mind was '' Cleaned '' .
Look at the black color between feather tips , right under bust and in and around the E & T in the word one cent on reverse . Sorry but this is not an original coin . That's exactly what came to my mind as well, it has definitely been cleaned at some point before your possession. It is still a nice coin and I am also leaning towards XF grade and agree it may not receive a straight-graded TPG slab, it may be considered damaged. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Hopefully legiux will clarify the accuracy of this color.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Corroded (environmental damaged) 1859 Indian cent graded EF. Nice coin though...how did you get it? |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
11922 Posts |
EF-40 for me (with no call on surface originality).
Edited by Joseph7420
11/09/2017 9:20 pm
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 France
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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xf45 and very nice. color looks great.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Your last set of pictures clearly indicates this coin had been cleaned at some point, black/dark dirty areas in between feathers and devices indicates that. But as mentioned already it is a nice coin. I don't believe it is worth the TPG slab since the premium on your coin it will not be $200 or more! but it is your coin your decision and your money and you need to decide on what pleases you. Here is a pic from an original one in similar grade.  Edited by Chase007
11/10/2017 2:11 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Your latest pictures make it look like two totally different coins when comparing to the first pics. Assuming we're talking about the middle coin in the second set of pics then that looks like a perfectly normal 1859 Indian cent in EF condition. |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I'm in XF details crowd. the coin was cleaned at some point. there is something happening under the 1 in the date. any experts out there?
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