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You Vs ICCS: 1929 Cent

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 Posted 12/03/2017  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Pass the crow and the mustard, please.
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12/03/2017 6:20 pm
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 Posted 12/03/2017  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Optimist-numismatist to your friends list
Dude that is amazing!
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 Posted 12/03/2017  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list

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i say ms 65 with confidence

i only say that because I saw it in person today
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 Posted 12/03/2017  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
Doubleeagle59, if my valuation of this coin is something you'd like to discuss, please feel free to shoot me a PM and i'll happily answer any questions you may have!

thanks optimist!

@gidjit thanks for your vote of confidence in the appeal the coin has in hand! it has been difficult for me to prove that it is worthy of the grade through pictures alone. great seeing you today by the way! can't wait for next time!
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 Posted 12/03/2017  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
I don't get the grade. At PCGS, I think best case is MS65 Brown. More likely MS62 or MS63 Brown......

https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/wor...bnail-071515

https://www.PCGS.com/SetRegistry/ca...meset/159990

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 Posted 12/04/2017  09:56 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Are you able to post better photos, with something better than a cell phone?
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 Posted 12/04/2017  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andy888 to your friends list
the original pics def looked brown in color. the more recent pics has the coin appearing more red. no wonder we all got it wrong - better pics next time please!
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 Posted 12/07/2017  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
sorry for the low quality images, SPP, I will try for better images when I have it back in hand (it is currently in the hands of a fellow member who I work with) although I don't have a proper set up for images or a good camera, I will try my absolute best to accommodate your request when possible!:)
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 Posted 12/07/2017  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
Well done thedollarman! Simply stunning! The Charlton doesn't even have a price assigned to the MS-65 grade! Where did you get it out of curiosity?
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 Posted 12/07/2017  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
where all great Canadian CCF cherry picks seem to happen...Ebay
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 Posted 12/07/2017  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canacoins to your friends list
For what its worth, I was thinking MS-64, no attribution.
Anyways, it's a beauty. Congrats
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 Posted 12/08/2017  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
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 Posted 12/08/2017  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
When grading these, look closely at the sharpness of the pearls in the head band of the crown.

A bit hard to see these in the OP's pictures, so I will just accept the opinion of the TPGrader.
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 Posted 12/08/2017  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list

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When grading these, look closely at the sharpness of the pearls in the head band of the crown.


I respectively wholeheartedly disagree as it is my opinion that when ICCS grades an MS KGV coin, they don't give the beads or the pearls a second thought.

I've seen ICCS EF and AU coins with the sharpest of pearls and then there are ICCS MS coins with pearls and beads that appear visually 'worn'.

I've said this before and I'll say it again.... the secret of this business is not knowing how to grade, but it's knowing how ICCS grades.
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 Posted 12/08/2017  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
ALL Australian pre decimal bronze and silver coins (half pennies, pennies threepences sixpences shillings and florins) used the identical Mackennal bust design 1911 until 1936.
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