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Does This Look Like It Was A Proof?

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 Posted 05/17/2008  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list

Quote:
Originally posted by hockingzig

What is the best way to clean fingerprints off of it and how do I store it to keep in in good condition?


I personally believe the following advice from Sap is the best:


Quote:
Originally posted by Sap

If you've got a proof or unc coin that you can see a fingerprint on, and it's changed the colour of the metal and/or oxidized the surface, it's probably already too late - anything you do to "clean" it will probably make it worse. An old fingerprint on a coin (especially a bronze/copper one) won't come off without acid.

A fresh print is different. If you've got a proof or unc coin that has just been pulled from circulation or accidentally mishandled, in such a way that you are fairly certain that a fingerprint stain will develop on it in time even though you can't really see anything there now, a quick swish in acetone will remove the fingerprint oil before it can do damage.

If a fingerprint is fresh, trying to wipe it away might even make the problem greater, by smearing the oil over a wider surface.


Have a read of this thread: https://goccf.com/t/28919



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 Posted 05/17/2008  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list

As for the best way to store it? That depends completely upon your budget!
I would probably use a 2x2 to keep it safe, however a mylar flip would work too.
If you have a large budget, you could always use an air-tite, but this is probably unnecessary.

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 Posted 05/17/2008  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JD4x4 to your friends list
Hi all..I'm a newb so bear with me, but about cleaning- I thought that acetone was an acceptable way to remove light dirt and/or finger oils. Is everyone saying that you should not even clean with that method?

I understand that any sort of wiping might cause grit to make scratches, but isn't it ok to put a coin in enough acetone to cover it. let it soak a bit, and gently wipe the surface while it's still immersed?
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 Posted 05/17/2008  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list

JD4x4,

In my post above yours I mentioned the use of acetone.

QUOTE: "If you've got a proof or unc coin that has just been pulled from circulation or accidentally mishandled, in such a way that you are fairly certain that a fingerprint stain will develop on it in time even though you can't really see anything there now, a quick swish in acetone will remove the fingerprint oil before it can do damage."

Acetone used carefully and cautiously is not harmful to coins, in my opinion.

Snooba.



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 Posted 05/17/2008  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list
I worry about what gets between the coin and the cloth
for the most part. Any tiny bit of something that is there
could travel with the cloth and turn it into 'sandpaper'
essentially. Stuff too small to see will create scratches.
Then there is the cloth itself. If it is not the correct
material, the cloth itself can create damage.

Now, I haven't studied the subject of what to use to clean
coins, as I never have believed in it... However I have
studied how to clean and polish black cars, notorious
for scratching and swirling if you look at them funny.
You have to use a new, USA made 100% cotton cloth.
Any blends or substandard cottons will scratch.
I know it sounds funny to use this as a comparison, but
it actually fits nicely if you are familiar with trying
to keep black cars show quality clean.

Anyway, I still don't believe in cleaning, but if you do
try it, BE VERY CAREFUL and mindful of the methods and
materials you use. You can make things worse in a millsecond.
With a car, you can buff it out... with a coin,
you have no second chance. But let's face it, we're
talking about a coin worth 10c here. If you mess it up
you are only out about 9c since you paid face value for
it.

Edit:
Actually you can't lose any money on this.
You can clean it with a belt sander and still break even
as it will always be worth what you paid for it.
Edited by ratio411
05/17/2008 10:56 am
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 Posted 05/17/2008  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arthrene to your friends list
If you're using acetone you shouldn't have to wipe the coin at all. Acetone evaporates very quickly. Once you remove the coin from the solution it will evaporate off of the coin.

As has already been said, don't clean the coin unless you absolutely have to. Coins can be damaged very easily especially proofs.
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 Posted 05/17/2008  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list
handle with care
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 Posted 05/17/2008  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list
New territory for me, but when I use acetone at my shop,
it leaves a light film when left to dry on it's own.
Might just be the surfaces that I clean with the acetone,
but could be the metal type too. I would just be very
cautious with the surfaces of a proof coin especially.
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 Posted 05/17/2008  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
ratio411,
you can test to see if the acetone is causing the film or if it is just the surface of the material by pouring a bit of acetone into a clean clear glass dish and let it evaporate. Pure acetone will not leave a residue.
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 Posted 05/17/2008  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toniblab to your friends list
with the finger print is will go as a pf 63.still a very nice find.if I was you use a 2x2 for it.and never clean a coin!
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 Posted 05/18/2008  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
All my proof Lincolns are in airtites, the only way to store proofs IMO. Proof Lincolns are very susceptible to toning/oxidation.
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 Posted 05/19/2008  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rainman to your friends list
Does-This-Look-Like-It-Was-A-Proof?
Does-This-Look-Like-It-Was-A-Proof?

Top uncleaned Bottom cleaned.

Just now got a chance to to reply to this post. This is a shinny 2008. I just wanted to show a pictures of my method of cleaning coins it doses not leave scratches or residues on the coin's you can see the clean made the true flaws show up.

Seeking:Clean or Don't clean

Rainman
Edited by Rainman
05/19/2008 8:44 pm
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 Posted 05/19/2008  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
It is presently in a mylar 2x2 but I am willing to upgrade to an airtite if someone can explain what it looks like and where I can get one. No coin shops locally so I need to order these(unless someplace like Hobby Lobby would carry them!).
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 Posted 05/19/2008  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Terror Of Zanarkand to your friends list
yep, definitely a proof, and a good find! I love circulated proofs. I actually found a 2000 S dime today at work.
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 Posted 05/19/2008  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Airtites can be purchased on-line here:

http://www.airtiteholders.com/

or on ebay and also in most major coin shops. There are many other good plastic holders on the market also, one is Kointainer.

Good Luck!
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