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Venting... "FSB" Mercuries On Ebay

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 Posted 01/16/2018  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
I moved your post to the appropriate section for the proper attention.
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 Posted 01/16/2018  05:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list
Sorry Fuzzy, my bad.
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 Posted 01/16/2018  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
To be a Fully Split Bands, they need to be distinctly separated, and the tops of the bands need to be like the tops of loaves of bread.
That only happens with MS+ coins.
That is why "FSB" grades are only listed above MS60 in the catalogs.
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 Posted 01/16/2018  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
I'm with you Merclover , I see it all the time on E-Bay . I just shrug it off to stupidity .
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 Posted 01/16/2018  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
I'm sure it's a mix of un-educated sellers listing as such not knowing any better and educated sellers knowing better but looking to prey on trusting buyers. But yeah, it's wide spread along with harshly cleaned examples. Sometimes it gets tiring sifting through all the crap auctions to find the few goods ones. And I even have a list of excluded sellers from my generic saved search...
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 Posted 01/16/2018  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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I'm with you Merclover , I see it all the time on E-Bay . I just shrug it off to stupidity .

Yes and no. I suspect it is just not knowing exactly what FSB really means. You would be amazed at how many people just don't know it is referring to the Horizontal bands and not the vertical ones. Many times at coin shows when I ask if that Mercury dime has Full Bands, they show me that the vertical lines are clear. and these are dealers. They really just don't know.
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 Posted 01/16/2018  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
I'm with just carl, I have look at some local dealers and the bands just don't agree with me. ebay is full of it!
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 Posted 01/16/2018  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
Bands must be fully split and rounded to get the ridiculous premiums quoted.
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 Posted 01/16/2018  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Buy the coin, not the description, eh?
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 Posted 01/16/2018  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add otto to your friends list
I ignore descriptions like "full bands" or "steps" or "bell lines" on e-bay. If the seller has great photography you can venture to make your own determination, knowing that a TPG may disagree.
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 Posted 01/16/2018  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Bands must be fully split and rounded to get the ridiculous premiums quoted.

The problem really is not that they are or aren't fully split but which bands are the right ones. And that is the problem. So many don't know what is the bands being referred to.
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 Posted 01/16/2018  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
Well, that's even worse.
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 Posted 01/16/2018  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
4-5 years ago I probably bought 50% of my coins from ebay.

Today I spend 200-300% of what I did 5 years ago, but I can go many months without buying a coin on ebay. Even though I'm using all 100 search emails on ebay.

It's interesting to see how often I lose a bid on Heritage, Great Collections, or Stacks to see the exact same coin listed on ebay shortly after at outrageous prices.
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 Posted 01/22/2018  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list
Anyone notice ebay sellers now saying "Nearly Full Split Bands"? Can't these people read what they writing? It's either "Full" or it's not.

Gee whiz.
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 Posted 01/22/2018  01:53 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
It is now confirmed:

The world is full of people who are lacking in mental faculties and what we call "common sense".

Personally, I don't give much credence to superlatives such as FSB, FBL and FS. I have a lot of FS nickels and most of them are proofs.

Speaking of nickels, the steps are not the only full/partial design elements to find depending on strike strength. Maybe we could add Full Columns, as well, or Full Door. I get that these designations indicate strike quality, but they are all in areas that are significantly susceptible to a weak strike because of the designs and coin thickness.

By the way, the weakness often seen on LMCs in STATES OF and EPU on the reverse is due to a weak strike caused by the shoulder area of the Lincoln bust opposite those devices. I see it often described as Struck Through Grease, but I've seen way too many that are nearly exact matches for it to be grease.
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