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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Don't ship the goods until you have the money in hand, all of it.
Let me guess, two small payments, and then comes the big one, right? Sounds like a fraudster is gambling you will ship all the items before the funds clear.
First they establish a trust level, then the con.
For some fun, ship one of the lesser items out, but mark it as the expensive one, shipped and on it's way. See if you start getting a bunch of blather from the buyer about banking difficulties and such fairy tales.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Not so sure that's a good idea. 
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Rest in Peace
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If an issue with the same buyer, it may point to suspicious dealings in the past OR since PP has record of Buyers account total, the totals for all three transactions exceed what is in there. Two small charges will "clear" the third won't. Sounds like PP is CYA...yours AND theirs, be grateful but yes, don't send ANY until you know for sure. Then you are obligated to send the lesser, it is paid for.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote:
Let me guess, two small payments, and then comes the big one, right? Sounds like a fraudster is gambling you will ship all the items before the funds clear. Quote: If an issue with the same buyer, it may point to suspicious dealings in the past OR since PP has record of Buyers account total, the totals for all three transactions exceed what is in there. Two small charges will "clear" the third won't. Sounds like PP is CYA...yours AND theirs, be grateful but yes, don't send ANY until you know for sure. Then you are obligated to send the lesser, it is paid for. No! You're BOTH misunderstanding this. I've done well into the three figures of business with this particular buyer. I've had transactions larger than the three payments combined received from them the past couple of days. They have perfect feedback and always pay promptly. This is ALL ON PAYPAL. Nothing to do with the buyer. When I did the transaction, I was logged in via my VPN, and I had it set to a New York IP address at the time, as opposed to my normal Southern California address. This is what apparently triggered PayPal to hold it. This is yet another crooked method of PayPal's to make a little extra money off of people.  
CRH Nickeloholic. 1,600,000 nickels searched in eight years! Have found FOUR complete Jefferson sets!
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Pay pal only makes their money when the money moves. Unusual location receipt or send will trigger holds. Especially multiple transactions.
I'm glad it does. Slowing the flow or fraud is an easy choice.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
4594 Posts |
Yes, sorry, but I'm with PayPal when it comes to geofencing.
Of course, it should take no more than a couple minutes to call in, explain the situation and have the block released. Anything past that is on PP.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2917 Posts |
Payback is a..... 
CRH Nickeloholic. 1,600,000 nickels searched in eight years! Have found FOUR complete Jefferson sets!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
586 Posts |
Have you tried contacting the buyer. Maybe cancel the transaction and re-try. Was it on ebay, does the buyer have any negative reviews. I called paypal once and they were helpful and fixed me up, no broken english ect... Maybe try today and you may get a different crew in customer service. Is this the number your calling: Call PayPal Customer Service at 1 (402) 935-2050
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2917 Posts |
A day late, but the money showed up in my bank account this morning. It would be interesting to see how much extra money PayPal makes by doing this to people.
CRH Nickeloholic. 1,600,000 nickels searched in eight years! Have found FOUR complete Jefferson sets!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2917 Posts |
Quote:Have you tried contacting the buyer. Maybe cancel the transaction and re-try. Was it on ebay, does the buyer have any negative reviews. To reiterate, this had NOTHING to do with the buyer. The buyer has been buying from me for several months and has perfect feedback. I used a VPN with an IP address based out of New York rather than southern California to transfer the money, and this is what purportedly made them hold my money for an extra day. This was just a case where PayPal was trying to (insert favorite expletive) me around so they could have the money in their coffers for an extra day. I will take note of that customer service number though, as I've never seen it before. Their people in the Philippines customer service center are beyond incompetent - none of the three offered any sort of assistance.
CRH Nickeloholic. 1,600,000 nickels searched in eight years! Have found FOUR complete Jefferson sets!
Edited by John77 01/24/2018 1:43 pm
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Moderator
 United States
54283 Posts |
There is also compliancetransactions@paypal.com
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Quote: I used a VPN with an IP address based out of New York rather than southern California to transfer the money, and this is what purportedly made them hold my money for an extra day. I believe paypal was only looking out for you, and making sure that you get you money, when you switch computer address's when accepted or sending funds , it raises all kind of flags.. I really doubt they delayed the transactions for less than 24 hours, to make nothing in interest.. my opinion only..
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2917 Posts |
Believe it or not, it happened again today. I was logged into PayPal through my regular IP address. Didn't even have my VPN on. A small amount - only $2.12. But still, this is annoying.
Are they just randomly doing this to people now, or what?
CRH Nickeloholic. 1,600,000 nickels searched in eight years! Have found FOUR complete Jefferson sets!
Edited by John77 02/07/2018 5:52 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Not sure if this helps, or is 100% on topic. Sometimes I immediately transfer money to my bank account as soon as it hits the Paypal account. Most of the time, the money leaves Paypal right away (even though it takes 3 days to get to my bank  ,) but somtimes I get something like you, "There is a delay, yada yada." Paypal definitely has issues. Ever try transfering $ from your bank accout to Paypay? It takes forever. A scheduled Paypal Credit payment takes 4 days to post. Maybe that's one of the reasons why ebay is moving away from paypal in the next few years  I think the delay in transfer is random like you say, just a pain.
Edited by edweather 02/11/2018 10:30 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote:Not sure if this helps, or is 100% on topic. Sometimes I immediately transfer money to my bank account as soon as it hits the Paypal account. Most of the time, the money leaves Paypal right away (even though it takes 3 days to get to my bank ,) but sometimes I get something like you, "There is a delay, yada yada." Paypal definitely has issues. Ever try transfering $ from your bank account to Paypal? It takes forever. A scheduled Paypal Credit payment takes 4 days to post. Maybe that's one of the reasons why ebay is moving away from paypal in the next few years. I think the delay in transfer is random like you say, just a pain. No, it helps, and is on topic... I usually transfer my money as soon as PayPal has it. I have had the same issues sending money through PayPal - though my last purchase went through right away, thankfully. This week has been fine, thankfully. No holds or anything. I have made sure every one of my transactions came either through my normal IP address or an L.A. area-based VPN IP address...
CRH Nickeloholic. 1,600,000 nickels searched in eight years! Have found FOUR complete Jefferson sets!
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