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Pillar of the Community
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What's the holder it's in?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I sure hope PCGS know what they are doing. A good point to be made, is that not all dealers are completely savvy on how to pick fake 1923 Halfpennies. How do you pick which dealers are, and which dealers are not fully confident in this regard? I know one honest dealer who is not prepared to sell a '23 Halfpenny. (He sells mainly modern bright 'n shinies) My judgement with '23 Halfpennies is not perfectly reliable, either. I am forced to humbly admit occasional defeat on the most deceiving examples.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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A good point to be made, is that not all dealers are completely savvy on how to pick fake 1923 Halfpennies.
How do you pick which dealers are, and which dealers are not fully confident in this regard? Yep,not many of the old guard left,new breed are Internet savvy and will buy & sell just about anything. The 1923 half was probably the most counterfeited Coin in Australia up until the Chinese got into the market. The guy that got busted in Melb.in the late 1960's for the fake Florins had shoe box's full of 1923 fake halves. Still,IMO,this is the best Coin Collecting environment we have had since I was at School in the 1960's thanks to the Internet and the wealth of knowledge on there.eBay just has to get tough with fakes when their ID.listing cancelled or put in a section for Replica's. Edited by Basil
03/17/2018 6:45 pm
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Sorry I forgot to ID the auction for that: 263548839469That coin was never graded, those holders are sold on ebay and various Chinese sites. Image resized and brightened>  The easiest way to spot Chinese 1923 halfpennies is the date. The 9,2 and 3 are all wrong - especially the 3 which is nothing like the genuine coin pictured below.  On a CCF thread it was stated that a fake 1923 halfpenny was graded and slabbed but none of the links work and I cannot find a photo. If it did happen - it's not a mistake that will be repeated. |
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Australia
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Hi all There is one Victorian seller who sold a 1923 1/2 penny for $360.50 + $12.90 postage on 17.3.2018 and allegedly lives in Seaford. That very same seller has a 1946 Penny listed for auction, yet now lives in the next door suburb of Frankston, Victoria. His other sold listings on the proud home of counterfeits, ebay, from early January 2018 indicates he lives in Frankston. So, he sold a 1923 1/2 penny on 17.3.2018 from Seaford, Vic, and yet has a 1946 Penny listed for auction today, 18.3.2018, from Frankston ?. It could be that this "sunnyone" is busy in his back shed in the suburb which has more sunlight beaming into his back shed on the day. Enables him to produce better quality outcomes to list for wood duck Freddies to buy. |
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Valued Member
Australia
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You may be referring to a fake 1923 halfpenny in an NGC holder in Heritage a few years back. Collector here noticed it, reported it to Heritage, and it was pulled.
Eric Eigner
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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There always remains the possibility of fake slabs.
Impossible to fully investigate the coin inside, unless you break it out.
With the modern ability to fake credit cards to a very high level, it is almost a retrograde step in terms of the ability of the Chinese fakers, to manufacture fake slabs.
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Pillar of the Community
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I brought mine off ebay but still don't know if it's real or fake,some of the fakes are done so well it's hard trying to suss them out, this is mine it's a bit banged around   I can't convert bmp to jpg so I took a photo off the screen cheers Edited by nuggethill
03/30/2018 05:05 am
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but still don't know if it's real or fake Photo much too small. You can upload photos to 300kb maximum, which for jpeg file type usually means resize it to about 625x625. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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This coin appears to be damaged.
Bit hard to tell if its genuine or not due to poor image quality.
Also re JPG format - its should be easy to convert BMP to JPG.
Watch your top knot
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Forum Dad
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You can upload photos to 300kb maximum, which for jpeg file type usually means resize it to about 625x625. Actually at 75% compression, which is perfectly good on the internet, you can go much larger than that. NOTE: My eyes absolutely cannot see any difference between 95% and 75%, none at all. |
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I can't convert bmp to jpg so I took a photo off the screen Windows paint does it easily. Google or Bing etc will teach you in 5 minutes. A good guess needs a good photo. No angle - straight down at the coin, with plenty of room light. Camera flash off. The coin has none of the characteristics of the current wave of Chinese fakes, but that doesn't mean much. There are thousands of fake 1923 halfpennies. The numerals look okay, and the date position and alignment is correct, the coin might be genuine. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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This is from paint  cheers |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The pic is a bit small and we need the obverse as well.
However my guess is that its genuine and damaged.
Its had a big hit on the obverse which appears to the left of PENNY.
Its had some sort of clean as well.
Basically its awful but genuine.
Watch your top knot
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04/01/2018 05:59 am
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Here is date detail from your supplied photo.  Looks okay. Everything is pretty much as it should be. |
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