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1888 S Morgan Dollar - VAM Question - Back Coin Coming Through Front

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 Posted 02/27/2018  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
Called a clashed die - read up on them at error-ref.com
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 Posted 02/27/2018  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dollardude to your friends list
Could use a clearer image to determine exactly what this is... but from what I can see, I suspect this may be "Graffiti" <<<< after the mint, someone punched or engraved the images that appear as clash marks....

AGAIN,,,, I am not saying that is what this is... without clearer pictures I do not believe you will get a definite answer...
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 Posted 02/27/2018  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dollardude to your friends list
Is the AME from "America" showing through at the top left where it is written on the sleeve?
If yes, then it for sure is not correct... The AME from America would show at the bottom right, below the M of "UNUM".
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 Posted 02/27/2018  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
We need clearer images of both sides of the coin.

I recommend you check the exact weight and diameter of this coin. Also, check if it sticks to a magnet. Something about this coin doesn't look right, but it may just be the blurry images.

to the CCF!
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 Posted 02/28/2018  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Here is a link to the known VAM listings for '88-S. http://www.vamworld.com/1888-S+VAMs
While there are several clashed die listings none are as extreme as the example you have posted. Unfortunately, what you have is a Chinese fantasy counterfeit.
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 Posted 02/28/2018  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dollardude to your friends list


There are many clashed silver dollar VAMs ... None are clashed as much as yours appears to be...

Sorry
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 Posted 02/28/2018  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dollardude to your friends list
Don't despair too much over it being a fake...there are a couple options... return it for refund... or keep it as an example of what clashing looks like...

There were some coins struck by Dan Carr ...these "Morgans" were dated 1964 and were made to show the clashing... many VAM collectors find these coins useful in learning and understanding "clashing" ( I just looked and found some Dan Carr 1964 clashed "Morgans" going for about $199.00....)

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 Posted 02/28/2018  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add e135md to your friends list
I took some better Photos
From the fist post
No it does not stick to magnet
The AME is on the bottom right below M of UNUM
Or is it a Dan Morgan Clash or Just fake

Seller on E Bay says no returns or is this a learning issue for new collector

Any Help
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 Posted 02/28/2018  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
It's a Chinese fake.
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 Posted 02/28/2018  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
File a complaint with ebay as it is a Chinese fake. It doesn't matter in the least if the seller accepts returns or not.
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 Posted 02/28/2018  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add e135md to your friends list
I was able to update the photos better
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 Posted 02/28/2018  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
It's still a Chinese fake.
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 Posted 03/01/2018  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list
Yes, horrible fake - return as fast as you can!
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