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1875 CC Twenty Cent Piece For Grading

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So a 143 year old coin can show original mint luster it's just that when it has an uneven textured silver look(simply put not natural looking) that's when it's dipped or cleaned right? Also, I know dipping is acceptable and this may be a dumb question, but any 19 century silver coin that has no toning at all has been dipped? Thank you for all who answer as I am still learning.
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I would look at the surface quality of the coin paired with the unnatural white color. I wouldn't pay a full freight for it but others may like it.
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So a 143 year old coin can show original mint luster it's just that when it has an uneven textured silver look(simply put not natural looking) that's when it's dipped or cleaned right?


Take a look at these two Morgan dollars. Which one do you think has been cleaned?


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So a 143 year old coin can show original mint luster it's just that when it has an uneven textured silver look(simply put not natural looking) that's when it's dipped or cleaned right? Also, I know dipping is acceptable and this may be a dumb question, but any 19 century silver coin that has no toning at all has been dipped? Thank you for all who answer as I am still learning.


What you are looking for in detecting cleaned coins is a glossy (though not necessarily shiny), washed-out look (one dealer described it as slick). Of the two Morgans posted above, which has the look I describe.
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Original coin looks EF details (cleaned) to me, but my main objection would be the fingerprint.
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The first Morgan is definitely the off color.
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I think AU-50 detail, with the reverse showing more original luster and an above-average strike. The obverse has suffered more from over-dipping, with the new rim tone partially repairing the eye appeal. I could see a straight XF-45 grade which would take into account the market-acceptable dipping.
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And you are absolutely correct on that.....

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Wow, Barberman - that is still beautiful! Great for the straight grade!
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Wow, I really don't know crap!
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Did you purchase this one?
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No Mike I did not. I was excited when it came up online on my LCS website. However, when
I pulled up the listing it was a disappointment for the same reasons everybody outlined.
I am on the hunt for one xf to low au. The only problem is finding one with a decent strike.
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Thanks for the update, bro. I was just curious what it looked like in-hand. These days I am more convinced than ever that some coins are just more photogenic than others.
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