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On the 1917, please post both sides of the coin in the same post.
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Quote: So I guess that must have been dipped too and is worthless. Dipping doesn't make a coin worthless or even a details coin when done right you can't even tell it was done. It has been an acceptable practice with coins for decades.
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Below is the ebay listing for your 1917. From the photos the coin appears cleaned. Note the hairlines on both the obverse and reverse fields that were caused by wiping the coin. I would grade the coin UNC Details cleaned. It looks like the cleaning may have removed some of the coin's luster. The value of the coin is around $150. I would recommend that you return the coin for a refund. You are better off buying a TPG graded coin. A 1917 type 1 full head MS61 sells in the same price range that you paid for the coin. 253485751709
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- The 1917 appears cleaned. Note the fine scratches all going in the same direction, that are present in the images.
- The 1929, I can't tell if it is cleaned, as the photo is not good.
- The last one appears to not be cleaned.
I would return the coin immediately. It is obviously not BU and uncleaned. What grading service graded your MS-65 Mercury dime?
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OK, I will return it. Although it's a 1917-D, if that matters, I think those are a little more exensive. Here's another coin I bought, it wasn't as expensive though.  I guess a novice buying unslabbed coins is like chasing fool's gold. Or a fool chasing gold. I bought a bunch of Franklin halves for about 25% over melt value. They're nice to look at. Don't think I could have gone too wrong there.
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Here's the back of the 1929.  How about nickels, do they clean those too? If a coin has toning on it, does that imply it hasn't been cleaned and is thus safe? Or can it tone after a cleaning, eventually and be kind of the worst of both worlds.
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Here's a coin I was going to bid on, but if mine looks cleaned with minimal luster, than this one does too. What do you think? And thanks for your expertise. 
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OK, I will return it. Although it's a 1917-D, if that matters, I think those are a little more expensive My bad, I missed the D. If your coin graded UNC Details Cleaned, the value would be about $250. Your buy was in the price range of the coin. If the coin was graded by a TPG, sometimes they will kick a cleaned UNC coin down to AU Details Cleaned. I retract my recommendation about returning the coin. It is your call if you want a cleaned coin. The seller knew that coin was cleaned because he would have sent a none cleaned 1917 D in for grading.
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Thank you for your expertise. Do you think my coin is woefully lacking in luster? I think that's true, that they would have sent a coin with such great details in for grading. They either didn't as they knew it had been cleaned or they got it back and the TPG said cleaned.
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First, do not buy any coins from GSC as you can not do an accurate grade from their photos. They sell a lot of problem coins that do not appear as a problem from their photos.
Second, there is a grading forum where you can post coins for grading opinions. When requesting a grade, you need to post both sides of the coin.
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Quote:You are better off buying a TPG graded coin. +1000
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Quote: Do you think my coin is woefully lacking in luster? From the photo as noted some the luster was removed by the cleaning. I would need to see the coin in hand to better evaluate the luster quality. I avoid buying detail coins because they can be hard to resell. It appears that you have first hand experience on trying to resell cleaned coins to a dealer and getting a fair price.
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Well, I may be returning the one from GSC then. Don't know. It wasn't that expensive, but we'll see.
I haven't been able to find the "rate my coin" thread.
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Quote: I haven't been able to find the "rate my coin" thread. click on US Classic and Colonial Coins and there is a sub forum: US Classic and Colonial Coin Grading.
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Quote: If a coin has toning on it, does that imply it hasn't been cleaned and is thus safe?
Or can it tone after a cleaning, eventually and be kind of the worst of both worlds. A coin can tone after a cleaning or a dip. The toning on a cleaned coin can hide the cleaning marks. In TPG holders, you can see some coins that have toning that are noted as being cleaned.
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