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1944-S Merc Dime- Reverse Cud And Rainbow Toned

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 Posted 06/11/2008  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Since all my Cuds were on the reverse- lets REVERSE your " Cud KING" - to

" KING Cud !!"
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 Posted 06/11/2008  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
On the Mercury dime. It does appear to be a Cud. Nice catch. As far as removing it from the case: How is the case sealed? These are after market made, not from the mint (Well as far as I know). Some of these lock together, other ar fastened with screws. So that would be a determining factor. You might want to leave yourself a note (post it Note) on it till you see what the value would be either way. There are some listing in publications for known Cuds. Although yours is not a biggie, all Cuds start from little beginings. So I would leave it in tact till you find more information on it before cracking the set up. It maybe easily removed or have to be cracked. Time is a factor to see what others say about it.
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 Posted 06/11/2008  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
HI COOP!!

Yeah- its not sealed good at all-just locked - I can just snap/ pry it open pretty quick-that may explain why the dime has toned- its not air-tight at all!


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 Posted 06/11/2008  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Here are 2 closer pics of the Cud.

1944-S-Merc-Dime--Reverse-Cud-And-Rainbow-Toned 1944-S-Merc-Dime--Reverse-Cud-And-Rainbow-Toned
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 Posted 06/11/2008  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list
A few things...Its not a Cud. It's either folded over metal from a rim ding or it is a drop of solder. These coins were often used to make jewelery. It may be the same on the half. The fact that there might be extra metal along the rim might be why the coin doesn't fit well in the holder.

Also, most of the time, coins that were packaged in those sets were basically "culls" and often had rim damage or were cleaned somehow, reducing the value to melt.

In any case,I would need to see both sides of the coins, outside of the holder to be sure.

I don't think, at this point that they are errors.
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06/11/2008 2:22 pm
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 Posted 06/11/2008  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Sorry Bill,but I'm dis-agreeing with you right now.

Its not folded over metal and its not solder from what I can see-
I'll pull it out of the folder and take new pics for you -Obverse and Reverse and then we all can discuss this further.
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 Posted 06/11/2008  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
I have a broadstruck roos. a lot newer than yours.
Looks like a collar problem. Also see some damage to the left
of questionable Cud. Is the edge smooth ? I.E.: none or very little
reeding ?
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 Posted 06/11/2008  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
Nix that earlier reply on the damage. I was looking at the two last pics. It's just the holder. Interesting coin set. Never saw one before. After closer exam. do not see a broadstrike. the franklin
looks kinda ? Weird set of coins. maybe the indian and the nickel
are worth something.
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 Posted 06/11/2008  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list
I'll wait for pictures of the edge, the obverse and the reverse when the coin is out of the holder to be sure. It just doesn't look right yet.

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 06/11/2008  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Good call Bill. Lets wait for more images.
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 Posted 06/11/2008  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list
Hi,

I did get more images via email. I won't comment completely unless or until chuckster posts some of the pictures. We are presently emailing back and forth. Without his pictures, the comments won't make sense:-) Still doesn't look like Cuds. There is a possibility that the half may be interesting but for a completely different reason. We'll see where this goes:-)

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 06/11/2008  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Ok- Finally- here are the new pics- out of the holder.

Sorry for the tremendous number of pics but I was trying to cover all the possible angles.!

I'll post pics of the half in the next replky- too many pics to look at all at once.

I'm thinking Bill is correct on this - NO Cud!- does give the appearance of being attached /soldered to another object- comments opinions please.

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 Posted 06/11/2008  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Here are the new pics of the half dollar
Look at pic # 6 - looks like the metal split from the rim- no die chip.

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 Posted 06/12/2008  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list
Definitely damage on the Merc and not a Cud IMO since there is an indent on the rim edge which I associate with post-mint tinkering. Cud should have a full unscathed rim I believe if it were mint-made. The half looks like damage to the rim as well and not a chip, since an equivalent amount of metal is missing from the rim.
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 Posted 06/12/2008  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Looks like a solder job out of the holder. That might account for the rainbow toning. Heat from the soldering?
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