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New Member
Taiwan
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I suggest you read Frank Rose's 'Chopmarks' available at Scott Semans [ http://www.coincoin.com/bkCC.htm#CHOPMARKS ] for $12:50. The pictures are pretty bad but the information is good. Unfortunately, if you live outside of the USA postage is now quite expensive as there is no longer sea or surface mail. A search through the various auction houses [Heritage, Bowers & Merena, etc.] will give you some price information especially for US Trade dollars. I'm currently putting together a word file with all the chopped coins that have been sold [and are listed on the internet]. I can post or email this list once it's finished. I'm also going to the Hong Kong coin show at the end of August. It's the premier show for Chinese coins in the world. It should be prime hunting ground for chopmarked coins. I'll let you know what I find. I'd like to hear from other collectors out there. I know growing up in Canada I never even heard of chopmarked coins. I can't ever remember seeing one for sale. But there's really a fascinating area of numismatics. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've always known about chopmarked coins, but I'd never really considered them interesting until a year or two ago one was offered to me at my usual coin dealer's shop. It is an American Trade dollar, and I had to have it. Since then, I've gone hunting for chopped coins, trying to find different countries, different styles of chops. I have FM Rose's little booklet on chopmarked coins, and agree that it is extremely fascinating and very informative. I think mine cost around $25 on ebay. The majority of the coins I find around here for sale, that have chops, are almost always Mexican pieces. Living in San Antonio TX, there are quite a few collectors of Mexican coins and currencies so that isn't too far a stretch of the imagination. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hello group
What a gret topic. I have collected mexico 8 reales (Pillar, Portrait and Cap and Rays) since 1975 and have encountered literally hundreds of chop marked coins. Over the years, like ElleKitty, I put some aside because they were interesting but didn't realize the extent of the collector base for these coins. (I used to be able to buy them at a little above melt as "damaged coins" but no longer). I have some that look like the obliterated Cap and Ray of ElleKitty above and others with a single sharp/distinct chop or large counterstamp. When I joined the local coin club a few years back, I met a fellow collector with an awesome collection of coins that are chopped, he is always looking for a different type. Another very interesting aspect to this incredible hobby
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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jfransch- yes I too really feel that chops add something to a coin rather than damage it. If anything more history is present on a chopped coin.
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Taiwan
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Great links CollinG, gives me more motivation to get my collection scanned so I can post my collection online like that. What a great reference tool for people to use.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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United States
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gxseries- thanks for the link. Very interesting counterstamps, but I must disagree with the grading of the 8. It really seems to me to be a VF rather than an EF.
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New Member
Taiwan
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For those interested there was a Chopmark Collectors Club [now inactive] which has published over 350 pages of information in their newsletter. The entire series of newsletters are available for $20 [+postage] from the founder, Everett R. Jones. Just Google 'Chopmark Collectors Club'and you should find it. Rose's book is only 54 pages so the newsletters are worth reading for the serious collector.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have sent an email off to Mr. Jones, to see if the email is still valid and if the offer of the bound Newsletter is still valid.
After this much time, anything may have happened.
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New Member
Taiwan
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ElleKitty - The link to Mr. Jones is still valid. I've been in contact with him recently [having just ordered the set of newsletters myself]. $20 is a great bargain and who knows how long the information will be available for purchase.
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New Member
Taiwan
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gxseries - The coin you've linked is the only Japanese counterstamped foreign coin I'm aware ever circulated in Japan. It's quite rare. Chinese chopmarked foreign coins are, on the other hand, plentiful and quite cheap. There are many more varieties too - of both the coins and the different chopmarks.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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ColinG- thanks for all of the help and info!
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New Member
Taiwan
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Well I got back from the coin show in Hong Kong yesterday and I did manage to buy about 30 chopmarked coins. Most of the dealers only came with their best stuff but two local Hong Kong dealers brought in stuff they had the following day. I wll try and post some pictures. Most interesting were three lucky wedding chopped coins [Rose p. 6, fig. 15] which I had never seen for sale anywhere before. His prices where crazy [I passed] but I was tempted. My chopmarked collection has now passed 100 pieces and am looking for more.
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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Well, I was looking through my collection and I see an 1894 G.A.
It had the exact same chopmark, aswell as a swastika stamp.
So, does anyone have any idea where those chopmarks originate from? and how much does the value change with certain chop marks?
Thanks...
TheKid!
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