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Unique Error Coins Found Roll Searching W/Pics

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 Posted 04/07/2018  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I've bought rolls like these on ebay. Most of the time they are loose and not tight, indicating to me that they are not OBW rolls. I bought some 1961-1964 and only one year did I find anything. RPM on one type in the roll.
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 Posted 04/07/2018  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list

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Looks more like a simple strikethrough not a brockage.

I'm definitely with Conder on this one. I guess we'll see what the TPG says.

By the way, out of curiosity, what's the date?
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04/07/2018 3:54 pm
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 Posted 04/07/2018  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FrankenCoin to your friends list
Thank you Numisma:


Quote:
I'm definitely with Conder on this one. I guess we'll see what the TPG says.

By the way, out of curiosity, what's the date?


Being new I originally posted in wrong tread and thanks for asking I was saving this for discussion, 1962-D fair grade on the obverse.

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Struck Through Struck Coin: https://sullivannumismatics.com/inf...-error-coins

A coin which has had another coin struck into it is called a "brockage." There are many variations and specific terms for the different kinds of brockages, but for brevity's sake we will stick with the most basic definition. The below coin is a mirror brockage, which is a full impression of one side of a coin into the opposite side of the coin, giving in effect a "mirror image."

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I have had some of these rolls in storage since the 60s and never opened them.

Thanks for every ones' input - you learn something new everyday.
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04/08/2018 12:11 am
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 Posted 04/07/2018  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
But what causes a mirror brockage?
http://www.error-ref.com/?s=First+Strike+Brockages
Mirror brockage show the devices mirrored.
Your coin was struck through debris between the dies during the strike.
http://www.error-ref.com/?s=struck+through
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 Posted 04/07/2018  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FrankenCoin to your friends list
Yes Coop:


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mirror brockage show the devices mirrored.
Your coin was struck through debris between the dies during the strike.


The Bust of Lincoln "Figure" is Mirrored and there was debris too maybe it picked up an Emery Disk too -- who knows.

I have been all over Errors-Ref and a few others and it still comes down to a Mirrored Brockage of "some type" and it is the only one I have seen like it.

It is just interesting on how these things happened but more importantly is proper terminology to classify the type of error especially for those that do not know where to start like me a week ago, lol.

Better than Frankencoin with hammers and vise.

I am not the Mint but it sure has been fun figuring this one out against all odds.
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 Posted 04/07/2018  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
It copies the top side of the donor coin:
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Mirrored from the obverse on the other coin.
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 Posted 04/07/2018  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FrankenCoin to your friends list
Thanks Coop:

Yes those are "perfectly mirrored": Struck Through Struck Coin https://sullivannumismatics.com/inf...-error-coins

Mine still came out as the roll as pictured and has the original patina "toning" on it unaltered as pictured above with no impact dents, scratches, etc. on the Obverse - I am clueless and I can only wait for the TPG and what they will conclude at this time.

No hammers and vises here.
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04/08/2018 12:14 am
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 Posted 04/08/2018  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Yours is struck through debris, not a brockage.
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 Posted 04/08/2018  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FrankenCoin to your friends list
Thank you SilverDollar:

The way I visualize it on this coin it was retained somewhere for some odd reason and then struck through debris mirrored "Negative" for some real odd reason.

It should still be considered a struck through brockage mirrored coin. It has been fun trying to figure this one out.

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 Posted 04/08/2018  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Take another look at the mirror brockage coins I posted. If some debris was in the way and fell off the coin, then the coin should have a mirrored reverse on your coin. There isn't. It is normal because the die had some debris on it when your coin was struck. So it is a struck through debris issue, not a brockage issue. Stuff gets struck onto coins all the time, because it was in the way of the strike:
Button:
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Coin did not exit the chamber:
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Struck through wire:
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Something?
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Grease and debris:
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Staple:
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Cloth:
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Spring:
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Small chain:
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Quarter planchet:
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Mint assisted Cent into quarter:
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Struck through capped die:
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Struck through cent planchet:
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Rim bur:
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Nail:
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This is just a few items I had on my image host.
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 Posted 04/08/2018  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SjlundCoin to your friends list
Definitely Struck Through Grease. Worth $10 at most
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 Posted 04/09/2018  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldMoney to your friends list
I'll vote as struck-through as opposed to brockage.
Please let us know what the TPG classifies this at.
Either way, it's a nice error.

On a side note-Thanks for all the photos Coop!

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 Posted 04/09/2018  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FrankenCoin to your friends list
Thanks @coop for all the fine pictures your awesome.


Also @OldMoney to CCF
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 Posted 04/09/2018  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
That's a great find! It was Struck Through Grease, but a large amount of grease! Please update this post when you get it back from grading.
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 Posted 04/10/2018  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FrankenCoin to your friends list
Thank you @Errers and Varietys and all others above for your fine help - everyone has been awesome here with sharing information.

After thinking about this coin and the way it was struck through in debris - thinking that I saw "a negative bust (figure of Abe) reversed in the Memorial a strike through counter brockage strike".

It is struck through debris "Not Reversed": In any event it is an high quality obverse that will grade very high and there is currently "Zero Population". In this year I believe this is going to grade around 66 or 67RD. Its a good one.

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It was logged in for grading at TPG April 6th and it will be a few weeks for results and of course I will let every one know. Thanks for your keen observations and help on this one.
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