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OK... I was thinking I was seeing thickness in the type elements...
I was thinking I saw notches on the 9 in the date especially, as well as the mint... and thought liberty seemed to be doubled and have notching on some of the letters...
Guess my eyes are bugging out...
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 Consulting VV and/or Wexler's (doubleddie.com) for known examples is pretty much a requirement.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Yes, I usually do try to reference and stick with the books... but saw this and saw no DDO's for this either. Trying to point out what I am seeing. (First time ever)... so hear it goes...   The LIBERTY seems to be extra thick and something is going on with it... (beyond the leg-less "R"...lol)? Also was just noticing how squatty the "Y" is next to the other letters (if that means anything?)  I am probably wrong... sometimes I think I see too much detail, and that combined with not really knowing yet what to look for gets me confused. Anyways, I am learning a lot here as I am starting to learn the process of how it's made... but still so NEW at this!!  |
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It's hard to tell from your pics what you are actually pointing at. I'm guessing split serifson the corners maybe? If your using your phone camera try putting on the macro setting ( the flower icon usually) and if you can change your shutter settings so it closes a little faster and take the pic under a bright as close as you can before it starts to lose focus it should give you pretty good results. Your phones gotta be at least 10 megapixels or more and make sure you have on best pic quality. I get great crisp detailed pics using this method. You can even get a decent clip on macro lens for your phone from Walmart for like $6. |
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Yes... I am new to all this. Plus learning to get my lighting right! I just got a digital micro... but still getting used to it. May need a better one instead, things seem too pixelated and grainy, making me want to go back to my good old microscope... but it didn't take pics :( BTW yes I was trying to point out serifs... but first time I ever tried. One month in to collecting and 3 days into using a forum... Possibly need sleep and just seeing things at this point!  Edited by Eyes4Error
04/12/2018 05:40 am
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Also keep in mind how lighting and especially reflections can affect how you see the coin and what others see in pics. Sometimes, if the lighting is just so, I see coins with incuse devices when, in fact, they are raised as they should be. It is all about the lighting.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Yes I definitely know what you are saying! I need to get my lighting right for sure!
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I see MD and or DDD. John1  |
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Well, I decided I needed to get better at explaining what it is I think I am looking at... So, most IMPORTANTLY I can at least get feedback on how I am thinking wrong. Hopefully I will have another  moment! Anyways, I took a stab at trying to "call out" what I think I am looking at (at least on the date and mint). You know I am really just trying to humor you all!    |
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OK... so only my second attempt trying to call whatI was seeing out.
Sorry if I failed!
I have come across MD a lot, some extreme and others not... but I did notice the flat shelf like appearance. This did not to me... which is why I am trying to understand.
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Looks for distortion on the devices. This is a Denver mint coin. Wexler does not list a DDO's from there on the LP2 obverses. 2 on the LP1 - 'D' (Earlobe WDDO-001 and cheek WDDO-002) None on the LP3 or LP4 from Denver. Denver has a lot less doubled dies than the Philly mint. I gave up look for them there years ago. Variety Vista a lot less listed on the obverses for that series. http://varietyvista.com/01d%20LC%20...%20Cents.htmEdited by coop
04/12/2018 9:56 pm
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Thanks Coop... I appreciate the help! I was just also wondering on my diagram above... if it worked in me explaining what I was at least thinking I was seeing? I thought if anything it would help, someone in explaining how I was seeing it wrong...? Now I am just thinking it showed how confused I was...haha. (*Note I added the disclaimer just incase someone came across the image)Feels like I am nearly back at square 1 relearning what I thought I understood! Wait for it!.... |
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No your not. Why do I say that? You realized you were incorrect with out telling you were incorrect. Keep in mind on the single squeeze cents that distortion comes into play on these doubled dies.    Keep in mind when you look too closely at the edges of the devices, you will not see the distortion of the single squeeze dies:  They tend to look like over inflated bicycle tubes. Here is a normal one:  DDO:  Normal:  DDO: Keep in mind the doubled dies are on other devices of the coin as well on LIBERTY. I'm just covering dates right now.  Small distortion on date.  See the distortion on these examples?  Seeing them side by side helps because the differences can be seen easy and not lost looking to a difference reference. Normal:  Forget the edges of the devices, look more at the centers of the devices. You will find the spread there.    Again think of the over inflated tube illustration. Normal date:  Hope this helps. Edited by coop
04/12/2018 10:34 pm
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I think it helps very much to see all those Images lined up and seeing different ways it can appear... *noted inflated tires :)
Sheesh... just makes me think whether I need to unroll and relook at all the coins I tossed out before I cash them back in...JK ;) Out with the old, in with the new. Think it is high time to try to rescue some new old coins from out of circulation. Only holding onto pre 60's-70's...
Thanks as always Coop!
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