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Something Sort Of Sketchy With Some Recent Ebay Listings.

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 Posted 07/20/2018  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list
The slabs look like Capital Plastic holders.
Add a bit of fancy looking labeling and -- voila -- there is another way to scam collectors.
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 Posted 07/20/2018  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
As mentioned in the other topic that I linked above...


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It's a rare company's slab, and an unlisted sample slab as well. You have to remember in these cases it is not the coin that is the collectible and the object of desire, it's the slab.
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 Posted 07/20/2018  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Add a bit of fancy looking labeling and -- voila -- there is another way to scam collectors.


There's no scam going on. Slabs are collectables in their own right which a number of collectors enjoy collecting from the various companies and/or the different generations that have been used.
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 Posted 07/20/2018  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Not a scam. Many people collect slabs. Conder101 on CCF is a slab collector.
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 Posted 07/21/2018  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
I agree. Denigrating anyone's choice of collecting type is judgemental at best.
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 Posted 07/21/2018  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sheldon Overton Baby to your friends list
I think some confusion here.

1) ebay us removing these. Why?

2) Why are suddenly multiples of these being posted from different sketchy accounts?

3) Besides an old thread on here that provides zero sources: I see nothing to backup claim these slabs are legitimate. Nothing. They preport to be from this organization that I cannot find reference to ANYWERE.


I think we have a scam here.
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 Posted 07/22/2018  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
There are fake PCGS and NGC slabs out there, so someone might fake these if there is a market for them.

I am not saying these are fake or these links are a scam since I do not know a lot about them, but it is worth discussing.
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 Posted 07/22/2018  01:16 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
I found a couple of other old references, so I figured it best to add them here for a more complete topic. This is apparently when Conder101 first learned of their existence:

https://www.NGCcoin.com/boards/topi...tified-coin/

This is from CCF and adds one piece of important info:

http://goccf.com/t/249724

So, if John W. Blumhofer is living and able to be located, we may find out much more about USNAF.



Edit: I may have found an address for him...
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In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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07/22/2018 01:28 am
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 Posted 07/22/2018  02:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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2) Why are suddenly multiples of these being posted from different sketchy accounts?


I wouldn't call an account sketchy just because it's new, every account started as a brand new one at one point.

As for why they're popping up there's countless reasons ranging from everything from they just wanted to sell something to they saw the price of a sale/read about them and are selling now that different slab types has become more popular.
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 Posted 07/22/2018  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
At least their address is not in China.
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 Posted 07/22/2018  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Slab collecting is one thing, but this is way over the top. Not sure what these "experienced" bidders are bidding on, but a lot of fancy packaging. I love the fact that it's "on the level." hahaha lol Love the description too, very rich.
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 Posted 07/22/2018  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sheldon Overton Baby to your friends list
I am always open to being proven wrong and when I saw the first one I saw no red flags but this seems beyond sketchy.
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 Posted 07/26/2018  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
I think we need FPGs to authenticate questionable slabs...
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 Posted 07/26/2018  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
To me, in the (2) most recent sample slab auctions that have been posted the label looked way too fresh to be 30 years old.
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07/26/2018 12:48 pm
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 Posted 07/26/2018  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list

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I think we need FPGs to authenticate questionable slabs...

Been there...done that:
Something-Sort-Of-Sketchy-With-Some-Recent-Ebay-Listings.


Total tongue in cheek.
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