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Found 1889 10 Cent Piece In My Childhood Collection - Banged Up, Though...

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 Posted 09/03/2018  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maundymoney to your friends list
Thanks so much for the info.

I'm not too familiar with the 'Details' marker. I guess this is just where they point out special issues with the coin, for the buyer to be aware of?

Would you be able to give the coin a rough estimate of a grade with details, based on these pics? Not as anything definite, of course. Just a rough 'ballpark' grade and details evaluation, so I can get a sense for how these things work, with coins in this kind of condition.

As an aside. I seem to be having some bad luck with these things. I found a one shilling piece from 1859 in my collection, but it has a whole punched in right near the top... Looks like someone needed a necklace. Though I can't really fault them for not considering 'posterity.' To them, it would have just been another shilling they had lying around, initially. Can't expect regular people to be thinking about the requirements of numismatics over a century and a half later. Lol.
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 Posted 09/03/2018  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I am not good at grading so I won't.
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 Posted 09/03/2018  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maundymoney to your friends list
Ah, that's ok. Hopefully there will be some other folks who might chime in later.

Thanks for all your help so far though!
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 Posted 09/03/2018  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
You are more than welcome. I hope you stick around and participate.
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 Posted 09/03/2018  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maundymoney to your friends list
Thank you. I may not be able to post again for a while because I'm heading back to university. But I'm looking forward to uploading more coins the next time I visit my parents (where the coins are stored).
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 Posted 09/04/2018  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Good with your studies
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 Posted 09/04/2018  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list
Details designation: when a tgp grades a coin, damage is noted separately from the grade. So, the tgp will assign a grade to the coin, then write 'Details' in the comments section to note the damage. For me, I would never get a coin graded if I knew it would come back with a 'Details' designation.
Collectors don't like the 'Details' designation but for a rare coin that is scarce in any condition a collector might not mind it much at all. Better for something to fill the hole, than nothing. Kinda like the Newfoundland 5 cent 1873. Most Newfoundland collectors would be happy to have one in any grade.
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 Posted 09/04/2018  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
This coin is in such bad shape not really worth grading but ICCS will assign a numeric grade to a problem coin, which I believes misleads new collectors, this is like others have said a good hole filler
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 Posted 09/07/2018  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maundymoney to your friends list
Thanks so much, everybody, for the useful information on grading and details. And also for the well-wishes regarding school. I'm actually finishing up by BA. Hons. in History this year, so my coin collecting when I was a kid actually directly contributed to my interest in the field.

Semi-related to that, I am considering selling the coin, as I am not super attached to it (I think I actually just found it in a desk somewhere in my home, which dates back to the 1870s). And I figured that is money that could really help with textbooks (there's lot's of required reading for history seminars).

So I was interested in getting some advice on grading, because I thought getting it officially done might help with selling it. Though the consensus seems to be not to bother with the grading. Which leaves me in a position where I'm not sure what a fair market price would be.

I hope I'm not breaking any rules by asking, but seeing as I probably shouldn't pay for an official grading, and even if I did, it would have a 'details' notice for obvious damage, may I ask what a reasonable ballpark might be for pricing this for sale?

As many people have stated, it would make a good hole-filler for a Canadian dime collector, until they manage to save up for a better condition one.

Just for reference, here is a another one of these that was NGC Graded G-6, which sold for $899 + $10 shipping on ebay just two weeks ago: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Canada-1889...AOSwMv5bbeyE

Of course, with the damage, I imagine mine would be worth a lot less than a G-6 without a details marker for damage. But does anyone have any idea of what might be a fair price, in a ballpark sense?

Sorry if asking this is breaking any rules. I've just never sold anything online before. And coins seem particularly tricky.
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 Posted 09/07/2018  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maundymoney to your friends list
Sorry. I'm not sure why the ebay link redirects to something else. But when I search for 'sold listings' the $899 one comes up second: https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_fro...H_Complete=1
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 Posted 09/07/2018  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Talonbat to your friends list
Value for details marker, or damaged or scratched etc etc all depends on how bad the coin is. Your particular coin has so many problems it will be a very very small portion of any market value. It is not a simple scratch, dent or cleaned. It may have been, mounted, there is pitting, many dents and scratches and looks to be bent as well. The only reason this has any value left is it is an extremely rare date and as others have said just a hole filler. Being a filler it needs to be very cheap, if it were me I'd go on buy/sell here, kijiji, reddit or coinsandcanada and try to sell it to avoid fees and just entertain reasonable offers. If I were set on ebay I'd probably just 99 cent auction it over 7 days and hope I get lucky. If I were trying to sell such a coin I'd be super happy to get even close to $100(I think its worth far less to be honest). The only problem 1889 dime I remember seeing sold had a hole in it and it went for $150, it was in far better shape then this coin damagewise.

Also the dime you show on ebay sold for a best offer of $775 but its a straight grade and graded. Also it has been relisted so clearly it didn't go through.
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 Posted 09/07/2018  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
I read through, may have missed if anyone already said it but don't clean the coins.
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 Posted 09/08/2018  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maundymoney to your friends list
Thank you so much for the helpful responses! This is exactly what I was wondering about.

It's sad to hear that the coin is worth so little, but of course it makes sense, given the damage. It's just very funny to me that the one rare coin I have in my collection is beat to death. Lol. Ah well.

(Though I do have a 1974 Winnipeg proof silver dollar set, which I don't even remember getting as a kid, since all of my proof sets are from the 90s. And apparently there is a Double Yoke variant that is worth something? I'll have to find a microscope to check.)

I don't have an ebay account for selling yet, and I imagine they take a cut of sales? Though I guess people can also set reserves on their auctions, in case the amount of money they get offered isn't enough.

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I do love using reddit, so I could also try that to see if there is any interest overall. Or find out what people are interested in spending.

This is great feedback.

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Actually, it gives me pause on the idea of selling. If it would only pull in $100 in a best-case scenario (which would buy maybe 1 or 2 textbooks if I'm lucky... I've had single books cost well over $200)...

...Perhaps I could keep it, and maybe start building a collection of Canadian dimes around it instead?

It might be fun to get back into coin collecting as a regular hobby. It certainly was fun when I was younger.

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On that note, has anyone had any luck finding old dimes and nickels say, 1900-1950, through buying rolls of coins at banks? I read a bit about that in some forums and blogs, where people buy blocks and boxes of coins from banks while looking for numismatically-valuable coins. Though a lot of others were more focused on finding silver or copper coins (when pennies were circulating), in order to find not-so-rare coins that nevertheless had a melt-value above their face-value.)

Is this still a viable way to find early 20th century coins? My bank is CIBC, and the last time I checked, there was a fee of $0.16 per roll purchased. Though I wonder if the fact that I have a no-fee student account might make a difference.

The reason I ask is because while I haven't been to a coin show in years, I assume trying to dig for a rare coin in a pile that a dealer owns would be futile, since as a dealer/numismatic at a show, they would know what they have.

And with me, part of the fun is the HUNT for hidden treasures. It's the same reason I like thrifting at Value Village pr Salvation Army for designer clothes or high quality audio gear, or rare academic books. Or picking up cool items at yard sales, where I spot something cool because I've done the research.

This is jalf because I don't have the disposable income to spend full price on rare coins on ebay - but also because I actually relish the hunt. Even if it takes hours on a weekend to find something cool.

(Sorry for the tangential aside - or if this kind of question belongs elsewhere. I'm just very interested in finding out if there are less expensive ways to get back into coin collecting.)
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 Posted 09/08/2018  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maundymoney to your friends list
PS: to TNG, thank you for the reminder. I read through a bunch of forum posts this week that said to definitely not clean the coins.

It's funny, I can actually recall planning to clean my pennies back when I was twelve, but I didn't end up doing it. And then I put my coins away. I guess that was lucky.
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 Posted 09/08/2018  08:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
One last hint. for what ever the reasons there are very few dime collectors
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