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1825 Bust Half Dollar - Ready For Grading Opinions

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 Posted 09/26/2018  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list
Never fails - some say wear - others will claim weak strike. Some say weak strike - others will say wear. Anybody got a link that would clear this up?
I say this one is wear, especially on reverse.
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 Posted 09/26/2018  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Apologize for editing my earlier post - didn't realize I edited out that part. I'm sure another member will be able to explain better than I about CBH strike issues.

Personally, I think this one could grade VF-25 to VF-30. I feel the reverse has a weaker strike than the obverse.
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09/26/2018 5:52 pm
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 Posted 09/26/2018  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
In my mind there's no doubt the reverse suffered from striking weakness - the wear pattern is just too uneven. I might be talk down to VF-20, but absolutely not less.
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 Posted 09/26/2018  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
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 Posted 09/26/2018  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list

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In my mind there's no doubt the reverse suffered from striking weakness - the wear pattern is just too uneven. I might be talk down to VF-20, but absolutely not less.


When I graded it VG a few years ago, I was either

1 - Very conservative with the grading
2 - Had zero knowledge of the series

I'd likely pick #2
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 Posted 09/26/2018  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Years past the quality of strike never use to be considered in the grading. It is now.
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 Posted 09/26/2018  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list
Here's a PCGS VF20 - do you want to argue weak strike and tell me PCGS will grade these BOTH at 20? Just trying to figure this weak strike crapola out.




1825-Bust-Half-Dollar---Ready-For-Grading-Opinions
1825-Bust-Half-Dollar---Ready-For-Grading-Opinions

Should state this coin is from a seller I follow on ebay.
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09/26/2018 8:09 pm
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 Posted 09/26/2018  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list
If Marks coin is VF20, I'm at F or less with the OP's coin. Am I the only one thinking the color is not right? I thinking it's been cleaned.

Nice coin Mark! !

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09/26/2018 7:32 pm
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 Posted 09/26/2018  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
i was at f15 based on the original pics. the slabbed coin seems to show more detail. especially in the reverse.
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 Posted 09/26/2018  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list

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seems?


It does!
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 Posted 09/26/2018  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list
I wish it was mine. A guy I have dealt with before and follow as a seller has it up on ebay. Figured it would be a good caparison seeing PCGS graded this at 20.
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09/26/2018 8:11 pm
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 Posted 09/26/2018  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
I don't know about PCGS, but like Coinfrog, you couldn't talk me down below VF-20. The OP coin shows a weak strike on the reverse. Would be great if AcesKings or paralyse can comment on this.
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 Posted 09/26/2018  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list
Taka a look at the rims and denticles on the coin in question. That's rub not strike. f-12 here.
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 Posted 09/27/2018  05:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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I say this one is wear, especially on reverse.


It's both on the OP coin. There is some wear, but it didn't start out as a fully detailed coin either.


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Here's a PCGS VF20 - do you want to argue weak strike and tell me PCGS will grade these BOTH at 20?


CBH you have to compare the same years (really the same Overtons too) to each other. The 24/1 doesn't really have much baring to the 1825 grading.
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 Posted 10/04/2018  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectinsince65 to your friends list
Gotta love an original bust half! fine 15
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