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Valued Member
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If over dates can be created by cutting the date and restamping why not in the 1943
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Bedrock of the Community
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Very interesting thread! It was a good theory, even though it's not true.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: If over dates can be created by cutting the date and restamping why not in the 1943 Let me try and clear things up. You are suggesting that the coins you are examining were originally minted as 1943 copper cents. Then when it became 1944 the mint chose to remint them as 1944 cents. You are using that theory to explain the anomaly you find where the 2nd 4 seems to have a curve on its right side. You are positing that the curve is a remnant of the 3 that was there. We are explaining several reasons that the theory is not true and not possible. I added that the existence of overdates is not a proof to the plausibility of your theory since those are not the result of the mint reminting a coin that was previously minted with a different date, it is a result of the mint retooling a die that was previously used for a different date.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Valued Member
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So my theory of using 1942-3 pennies to make 1944 is wrong, It's more plausible that they used a 1943 die and retooled to make 1944 pennies or my theory just plain wrong and not plausible at all.?
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Valued Member
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These are not the only pennies with the curve on the 2nd 4 I have seen Look at websites that sell 1944 pennies and you will find more upon examining pictures closely.
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Pillar of the Community
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Ok, so lets say they did that - what's the big deal? They are still just common 1944 Wheat cents in the end.
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Pillar of the Community
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The die that created your coin did not start as a 1943. Look at my composite pic of my 1943 and your 1944. The first 194 line up but the loop of the 3 does not come close to your anomaly. 
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Quote: I know where you can find more Where?
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Valued Member
 United States
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Then would the 1944 pennies with the curve would be consider over date errors?
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Valued Member
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I said that some of the 1943 pennies were used but most would of ofcourse be 1942 since those were the last copper pennies minted before the 1944. Most of the curves fit a 2 but some have the two curves of the 3.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: all they had to do is flatten images and restamp So what they would have to do is take a 1942 cent which is already the exact size of the hole in the collar, try to force it down into another collar (not an easy thing to do, that's why planchets are slightly smaller than the finished coins, so they will drop into the collar easily.) Then stamp it with blank dies to flatten out the previous details. Push it out of the collar. Force it back down into another collar being careful to keep it lined up exactly with the 1944 dies, and strike it again. Obviously this is not something that can be done by machine, each coin is going to have to be individually worked down into the collars and then struck. Can you really see them doing this?
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Valued Member
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Ok say that the mints are perfect and wouldn't find a way to do it Even though this forum is dedicated specifically to the mistakes that the mints never made public but were found by collectors. How do you explain the curves on the last 4 on what seems a large amount of the 1944 penny. Most show one top curve that would be the 2 but some show the two humps of the 3.
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