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2000 Lincoln Memorial Cent Stuck Through Cloth?

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 Posted 07/22/2008  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
If this had been struck through a rag there wouldn't be much if any detail on the coin other than the weave of the rag. This is just an exposure stain...environmental damage.
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 Posted 07/25/2008  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list
CC your wrong
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 Posted 07/25/2008  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
This was a cloth imprinted on the surface. Not a struck thru. Here is a struck thru cloth dime for comparison.

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 Posted 07/25/2008  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list
I think the dime shows cc was right. The struck thru cloth dime shows no sharp detail. The date is even very blurry and unreadable. The cent has sharp details. I think this shows that the cent is just stained and not struck thru.
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 Posted 07/25/2008  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
cc is right on the money. The dime is graded 62 by PCGS and is slabbed as a "no date". I have seen other struck thru cloth's and I have never seen one with a readable date.
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 Posted 07/26/2008  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list
CC add you all can think what you want I know a struck thur when I see one
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 Posted 07/26/2008  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BJ Neff to your friends list
Since there appears to be no evidence of indents on the coin's surface, the possibility of this being a struck through is extremely minimal. Even a cloth will impart its texture, in the form of an incused pattern, to the coin's surface when it comes between the die and a planchet.

While the coin shown has a cloth pattern it does not have an incused pattern. Thus, it is a stain on the coin and not a "struck through a foreign object".

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 Posted 07/26/2008  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list
My camera won't do 3D but its indent I will try to get a picture of it
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 Posted 07/26/2008  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
If your confident of your find, spend $40 + ins. & registered mail, and send to PCGS or any TPG. Then you will know for sure.
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 Posted 07/29/2008  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
I can handle being wrong - when I am wrong...

But in this case I know I'm right. I've seen it hundreds if not thousands of times. A struck through cloth coin looks very strange, like the dime....and they are very scarce. Thanks to this dime, I have now seen around a dozen struck through cloth coins, and all of them have the same characteristics - very mottled design, lettering barely readable if at all, and a perfectly normal 'other side'. Almost always the struck through is on the obverse. BTW, I have yet to see a zinc Lincoln struck through cloth.
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 Posted 07/29/2008  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list

If you look at the picture of the dime provided, you will see that a piece of cloth will distort the details on the coin.

What happened to your coin is that it was laying on a piece of cloth or it was covered by a piece of cloth after it left the mint. The coin was then stained by a reaction to the cloth. It is nothing more than that.

When you contradict people like CC, it bugs me. When you contradict visual evidence, it bugs me.

You need to spend 20 or 30 years to learn what things are and what they aren't then you can argue with folks like cc and pyrob and others.

This just needed to pointed out , once again, in a nice way.

Since you have probably have never seen a coin that was struck through cloth until you saw the picture in this post, you have nothing in your experience to compare to. You need to learn from this and move on to another topic.

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 Posted 08/01/2008  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Here are pictures of three different dated LMC's with similar markings/finishes etc to AMAC's coin

These are all "post-mint stained" coins?

One thing I did notice is that on all three, its only on one side of the coin, not both.

The 1977 it's on the reverse and the 1976 and 1995 it's on the obverse.

*The 1977 looks like someone's fingerprint!* Cool looking coin (IMHO)

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 Posted 08/01/2008  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Here is another 1995 with similar marks that also has the I&B in Liberty very weak and the bottom of the 95 in the date.

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 Posted 08/01/2008  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steamwalker to your friends list
Penny looks like it sat on a wet cloth for awhile.
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 Posted 08/03/2008  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BJ Neff to your friends list
Not to bring up this subject again, but there is a superb example of what a struck through cloth should look like in Coppercoins forum, under the heading of "general discussion - error coins".

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