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1999-D Connecticut 25c-WDDR-001! Help Please!

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 Posted 11/21/2018  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
I'll see what I can do. I don't have the best lens right now. I think it appears to be a DDR. And my pics are super blurry as well so that could be affecting what your seeing.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
It is a DDR, but is it from this die? That is up to John to check and check.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
Could you point out the branch my coin is missing in Wexlers photo? I understand it's below the cell with the other branch in it, and below the green spot, but it gets kinda blurry in the picture after that.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
Oh, so it IS a DDR. Just from a different Die. Possibly.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
1999-D-Connecticut-25c-WDDR-001!-Help-Please!
Note #3 on John's WDDR-001
Your coin doesn't show that and the other two branches are weaker. On your image there is an arrow that is covered a branch that might be something?
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Or maybe not on #3. It looks a bit like the design?
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 Posted 11/21/2018  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
Let me go move some stuff around on my picture and see what I can do. Be right Back coop.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
Here is the best I can do for now. I'm not seeing anything in the cell you are referring to. Any thoughts?
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My coin might also have circulation ware, or was struck by the same die at a later stage.
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If your coin is a 1999-D, then it has to be a different die than 1999-P WDDR-001.

It does look similar to WDDR-001. However, I've always been skeptical about this one being an actual DDR. I've found similar ones in the exact same spot that just don't have the same appearance as a typical single-squeeze era doubled die. My first thought was it could be a light die clash leaving remnants of Washington's 'spaghetti hair' in the reverse. I tried making an overlay to prove it was a clash (a lot harder than I thought), and the doubling does match up to two strands of hair. Does anyone agree or is this just confirmation bias on my part?

'Doubling' and hair that may have caused it are highlighted in red.
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Just realized I forgot to save the version that actually has the proper transparent overlay, how fun.

One I found:
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I think the coin you found, tanaman, is a different coin than the one we are discussing. Maybe you have another one? and would the exact Same die clash happen on many coins?
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Yeah, I know it is a different one, but it definitely has similarly shaped doubling in the exact same spot.

And yes, die clashes would leave the exact same mark on multiple coins.

Also, this is not confirmed. This is my theory, I'm not stating this as fact. I'll try to see find out what Wexler thinks of this explanation. For now, since WDDR-001 is still labeled a DDR, assume your coin is one too.

I'll let you know what Wexler thinks once I receive a response.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
Awesome thanks for the help. Happy hunting!
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 Posted 11/21/2018  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list
I just found more proof to back up my claim.

Found these pics of a Connecticut quarter with a strong die clash on another forum. (Credit to dchjr). The die clash marks are nearly identical in shape and location to your coin, my coin, and WDDR-001. I firmly believe WDDR-001 is a misattributed die clash.

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Convincing argument. You might be right.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
But on die clashes, it is the outline of the edges of the bust and buildings that affects the opposite die. The areas you are looking at are deeper into the die die and was altered during the creation of the die. These are class 9 doubled dies that are not in the correct hub setup and snaps into the correct place. But because the hub was tilted, it makes a kiss on the central location, then moves into the correct location. Thus some devices are hub doubled. The die is doubled, thus the extra devices we see.

Looking at the new image, it does look like WDDR-001. But The other image posted looks like a new listing.

Tanman2001, you might want to submit that one. So far this State from Denver has only one so far.

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Thanks again coop! Happy with this find.
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