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Because the Reverse is struck so weakly, I think that a loose piece of steel was on top of the planchet and it was struck through, making the Rev die not fully striking and the Obv punched out
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That's the jist I had in mind as well. The cracks in the bottom of the crater are hard to fake if tooled. Thanks okie.
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PMDIf there is a bulge there the obverse is not weak enough in general and the king's ear should be very well struck.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 , damaged coin. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Why is the obverse so weak around this anomaly?
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Why is the obverse so weak around this anomaly? . Because of the crud that got hammered into it kept the die high on the strike, and punched out the other side after a good strike to the obverse? "We are poor little lambs...who have lost our way...Baa...Baa...Baa"
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Think about it.
If that were true George's ear would be so detailed we'd see that mthe hairs needed trimming.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Why is the obverse so weak around this anomaly? Take any coin, brutally hammer a cavity into it... then, look at the other side... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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DBM, that's hilarious. I'm still not convinced. There is so much wear on the high spot on the obverse from the reverse cavity, and that with the weak strike on the reverse says it happened a long time ago. One way or another, I don't mind, but it's cool we can't agree yet.
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Exactly what are you disagreeing on? Think of the dies, and how coins are struck...
This is 100% a damaged coin.
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Take any coin, brutally hammer a cavity into it... then, look at the other side... SPP, I have done it, and know the results. This still does not explain the weak strike effecting the "N" in One, and the tapering of the "E" and "T" in cents. They would be full if it was punched. The "7" is very weak in hand as well. A hammered coin would not show wear on theses spots as they would be concaved from the blow. I don't think a cavity was hammered here, to odd of a shape for a punch. One way or another, lets figure it out. "We are poor little lambs...who have lost our way...Baa...Baa...Baa"
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Then you are speaking of a phenomenon completely independent of what created that cavity.
Weak strikes and strike-through (clogged dies) are common for the period, especially with Edward strikes.
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I don't think a cavity was hammered here, to odd of a shape for a punch. The obverse is the anvil die... think about that for a minute... I have a TON of coins, with both being struck through hard objects and struck through planchets with large cavities... you do not get the effect I am seeing here. Who said it was a punch? A drill bit (not designed for drilling metal) with enough pressure in a press would do the same... There is not a single informed error collector I know out there, who would even begin to attempt to accept this as being a legitimate error... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Oh, SPP, don't leave me hanging! What's up with this coin.
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One way or another, lets figure it out. Refer to Hounddog Bill's and DBM's posts above... you were already given the answers. Several times. You deciding not to accept the opinions of seasoned large cent collectors and error collectors is something not worth figuring out. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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