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Help Identifying A 1921 Peace Dollar

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 Posted 01/20/2019  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connor to your friends list
High end AU58 would be my guess.
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 Posted 01/20/2019  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chip Schleichard to your friends list
Turns out they used proof dies to strike business coins during the short run of these high relief 21s. From what I can tell is that the value is no different than the rest of them. They are just struck nicer. This was very confusing to me when I was comparing coins for an idea of grade. I thought that with better details it would be graded higher, but that's not the case at all. A ms60 or au58 struck by proof dies vs business dies are graded the same and are valued the same.

This is what I'm getting out of the info I've read at least. I did find that PCGS has some graded as such, but very few. Only 1 au58 is listed and the value is the same as any 1921 Peace dollar graded at au58.

Correct me if I'm wrong or missing anything.
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01/20/2019 5:52 pm
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 Posted 01/21/2019  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
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 Posted 01/21/2019  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list

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Turns out they used proof dies to strike business coins during the short run of these high relief 21s. From what I can tell is that the value is no different than the rest of them. They are just struck nicer. This was very confusing to me when I was comparing coins for an idea of grade. I thought that with better details it would be graded higher, but that's not the case at all. A ms60 or au58 struck by proof dies vs business dies are graded the same and are valued the same.


For the 1921 Peace dollar there are two types of proofs the satin proof and the matte proof. These proof have a value much greater than a business MS strike.

The 1921 satin proof has some controversy because there are no mint records of a satin proof. The satin proof was not discovered until 1975 by Walter Breen and a number of deceptive business strikes appear to have been struck from the same dies. NGC certifies the satin proof and PCGS has not certified any satin proofs.
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 Posted 01/21/2019  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
AU-58, it the mint frost as seen on the PCGS coin.
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 Posted 01/21/2019  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chip Schleichard to your friends list
Just curious.. How do you grade a coin on luster if it's been struck by matte or satin proof dies?

Maybe It's just me, but far as eye appeal I don't care so much for the shiny stuff. Well, except for gold coins, I would want to see it with some shine. /:
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 Posted 01/23/2019  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
AU58 nice strike.
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 Posted 01/23/2019  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BarberMan2016 to your friends list
AU58 dipped, the clouds around the R and T make me think that it was lightly cleaned/rubbed etc.
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 Posted 06/18/2019  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chip Schleichard to your friends list
Just wanted to update this after grading.
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 Posted 06/18/2019  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
congrats.
coin shows a lot more luster in the slab
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 Posted 06/19/2019  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Came out on the high end of what I guessed it would be. A nice coin anyway you look at it!

Thanks for following up with pics and the grading results.
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 Posted 06/19/2019  01:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list
Congrats! I was thinking 58 or 62.
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 Posted 06/19/2019  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AES to your friends list
It's received a very full strike. It has better eye appeal than many 64s I've traded.
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 Posted 06/19/2019  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jstav to your friends list
Man, that is a beauty and I really want to get one!
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 Posted 06/19/2019  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Congrats are in order!
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