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Check Your 1875 IHCs For The "Secret Mark"!

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 Posted 08/08/2008  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
Interesting article. But I'm skeptical of the ratio of 1 dotted N 1875 remaining for every 450 1875s produced. Yes, dividing 13.5 million by 30,000 gives you 450, but how many of those 30,000 were later destroyed or captured or confiscated after the mint employee was caught? I suspect the ratio is far less than this.

It does give me something to look for. I have maybe a dozen 1875s. If I have one I'll let you all know.
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 Posted 08/13/2008  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
The Stack's coin is now with Rick Snow. Here's his detail photo of the controversial mark:

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The other photo is here.
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 Posted 08/19/2008  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
Is it possible for this mark to be put there post-mintage? Can this potential problem be completely ruled out?
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 Posted 08/19/2008  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
As a raised mark on the coin? It isn't likely. Possible, but not by accident.
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 Posted 08/19/2008  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
Can soldering hot metal onto a coin create that appearance?
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 Posted 08/19/2008  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Possibly but you would have difficulty hiding the seam, discoloration from the heat, and the staining caused by the flux.
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 Posted 08/19/2008  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
For all I know, that's "the mark", and Rick Snow is now regarding this as a true variety.
If anyone wants a photo of the markers on this coin, Rick sent me one I can pass along.
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 Posted 08/19/2008  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
The raised area is copper(bronze) so the solder would have to be the same composition as the coin. Adding something that hot to the surface of a coin should discolor the surrounding metal
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 Posted 08/20/2008  03:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list
GO, that may vbe true, but what about the "tiny dot", on the right vertical leg of the "N"? That would be just the "katz-Pajamas" for catching a thief!
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 Posted 08/20/2008  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list
Hi Kurt.. I'd love a photo of the markers, if you don't mind sending Thanks for posting this!
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 Posted 08/20/2008  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
Hi,
Rick posted this later when I asked him about other markers. Here he's highlighted a reverse die crack that should appear on this variety.

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 Posted 08/20/2008  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list
I'm with GO here. By this line of thinking, any variety could be considered the "Secret Coin". If they wanted to mark the coins, I would think that the mint would have come up with something that didn't resemble Die Deterioration. Perhaps something inconspicuous like on the Omega Counterfeits.
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 Posted 08/20/2008  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add m9frank to your friends list
Thanks KurtS, I'll keep my eyes peeled.
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 Posted 08/20/2008  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list
Kurt, the "dot" I refer to is visible on the reverse you show, on the right leg of the "N" in cent. It shows on the original post, as well, instead of the "Die chip?"
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 Posted 08/20/2008  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
Dick, I think I see what you mean--good spot!
Rick Snow did not refer to that, but perhaps that's one too?
I have only seen photos of this one coin.
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