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1865 2 Cent For Grading

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 Posted 03/10/2019  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon Brand to your friends list
It has good detail and the typical die cracks. I am suspicious of the color as it seems juiced in the photo. These can definatly have alot of color but its very hard to tell if its original from those photos. Has the potential to be nice. Not to hi-jack your thread but this is my fancy 5, followed by a brown toner I am picking up soon. It shows similar color.

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 Posted 03/10/2019  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
It may well be juiced, question is, do I risk it?
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 Posted 03/10/2019  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon Brand to your friends list
Juiced or arificially toned, hard to tell, If they have a fair return policy can't hurt! If not, I would pass, unless the price is significantly less then the grade they give.
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 Posted 03/10/2019  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon Brand to your friends list
But if its natural looking in hand, it could be real nice.
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 Posted 03/10/2019  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
They are asking $175 with 14 day returns.
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 Posted 03/10/2019  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
He only sells high grade raw classic coins.
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 Posted 03/10/2019  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon Brand to your friends list
For 175 and a return policy Id say get it. And post your own photos here. And maybe we can help you decide. It has potential I think, even though I am not convinced the toning is natural.
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 Posted 03/10/2019  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
That's what worries me. I have to free up the cash as well, at 16 my budget is tight. Interested in a 1999 WAM anyone?
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 Posted 03/10/2019  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
with a great return policy, why not take a look if you like it? look high ms but cannot tell about luster and patine. surfaces look blemish free. I would take a shot to look in hand.
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 Posted 03/10/2019  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
I am in the MS63-64 range but the color worries me a little. Keep us updated!
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 Posted 03/10/2019  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The only way I have managed to 'juice' a modern coin, it experiment with a mint fresh current year copper nickel coins.
Just apply heat in varying amounts to a range of coins, until a nice rainbow effect is produced.

I would certainly not risk a classic 100+ year old coin such as this one, unless I knew it was a newly struck fake.

This coin most certainly does not look fake to me, therefore, in my opinion,
toning genuine.
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**UPDATE**

After asking the seller he says, "Thank you for your inquiry. The coin color is accurate and a bit darker 'in hand'."

I'm not sure what to make of that
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The lighting makes it hard to judge the surfaces, especially because of the washed out areas. The only way to know for sure is to see it in hand, and as long as there is a good return policy, it may be worth it.
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 Posted 03/11/2019  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Photo too grainy to tell for sure. Chances are in hand it's not as good as these photos try to depict.
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 Posted 03/11/2019  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
The coin doesn't look too bad, In my mind I think it's over priced by $50-80 too much. So many of these coins in nice PCGS slabs in the MS63 range for that money. Go see some nice ones linked off the PCGS market place found 2 different slabbed ones at exactly that or less graded MS63BN with really nice color. here is one on ebay (not my coin and I don't know the seller, so not a recommendation). https://www.ebay.com/itm/132973523841

Unless you have a lot of experience with copper or bronze colored coins be wary of high grade colorful coins in raw for sale online. At least in the OP coin there is a liberal return privilege, but that takes time and money, I'd rather buy something I can tell from fair photos.

My 2 cents worth as a serious 2 cent collector.

EDIT: Just went back to look at the ebay coin it's the rare plain 5 and is slightly rotated, two things some dealers try and get another $40 or 50 out of.
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