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Grade Opinion Please - Canada 1925 5 Cents

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 Posted 03/10/2019  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
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VG-08.
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 Posted 03/10/2019  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list
ICCS/CCCS would probably grade this VG-10.
If its PCGS, probably F-12
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 Posted 03/10/2019  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
VG10
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 03/10/2019  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Is that in a PCGS or CCCS holder?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 03/10/2019  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stogie to your friends list
Thanks everyone. Personally I would put this coin at VG-08. DBM - it is a PCGS holder...and now I will reveal my motivation for this thread, which is a serious pet peeve of mine.

I believe PCGS is excellent when it comes to grading U.S. coins and mint state Canadian coins, but I believe PCGS does not have the slightest clue on how to grade circulated Canadian coins. I found this coin on ebay last night (March 9), in a PCGS holder and was flabbergasted on what they graded it at...see pic below. There is no way this coin deserves a grade as high as it got from PCGS. I consistently see circulated Canadian coins in PCGS slabs that are vastly overgraded, and am wondering why this is...what gives? Does anybody else think PCGS vastly overgrades circulated Canadian coins?
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 Posted 03/10/2019  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list
Wow! Thats a curve ball you threw us right there!! Great example to show. How can this be possible? Grading coins wether US/CAD or world coins has a standard. An extra fine example should be extra fine regardless of the third party company. How can a company make a mistake on a VG8 to a XF40?

Speechless. Although I have seen NGC grade similar....
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 Posted 03/10/2019  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list
I would have said vg8 no more imo
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 Posted 03/10/2019  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
But...but...but...the EXPERT experts graded this one! How could a panel of three professionally trained, world class expert graders (and as the website says, they will assign specialist graders to the coin type) - the best of the best - be wrong?

I've got it...mass hallucination

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 Posted 03/11/2019  06:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
By examining the case, does it look like it had been tampered with? My personal opinion is that someone replaced the coin with a different one.
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 Posted 03/11/2019  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sergiomomesso to your friends list
for the purpose, this is my EF40 ICCS 1925 5 cents coin

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 Posted 03/12/2019  02:05 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Undoubtedly overgraded. PCGS might call that one F-12 at best. Must have been beer-o'clock when that one was graded (to err is human, after all).

I imagine if you bought that PCGS XF-40, you would have a pretty good case of getting your money back from the PCGS grade guarantee...
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 Posted 03/14/2019  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
PCGS blew it big time on this one. VG-10 seems about right.
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