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I am simply presenting information based on facts. You are welcome to use them to assist you in your decision making. A quick look at the seller's buying and selling history presented the 3 below purchases which were obviously doctored and resold. The seller's (intentionally) lower grade photos are on the left. I am sure with enough time I could find where your coin came from as well. You can click on the photos for a slightly higher resolution to see the marked diagnostics identifying each as the same coin.    Edited by indian_hoarder
03/20/2019 12:33 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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That's interesting. This coin looks like the coin in the seller's pictures, but not the coin I received. How do you suppose he got rid of the hits on the cheek and added the luster back on?
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If you got super lucky and he messed up and sent you the wrong coin / a better coin ... looking through his buys and sales, he had quite a few 1899s in the past few weeks. He bought this coin for $39 and sold for $55, so it wasn't logically intentionally swapped.
However, by his track record, the coin you received, if actually different, is still probably doctored. If your intent was always to just put it in a book, then I guess you're not out anything either way.
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Pillar of the Community
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Oh, and based on the original visual condition of the coin ... this guy is really good. Too bad he probably would never reveal his techniques. I have some problem coins I would love to enhance, but without the nefarious purpose.
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03/20/2019 03:12 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Nice detective work—that's definitely the same coin as in the seller's picture, and definitely not the one that was shipped. That's a pretty remarkable improvement in the appearance. And those nicks on the cheek could disappear with judicious lighting.
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like the seller did send the wrong coin. Here's the listing of the 1899 IHC he shipped by mistake. Terrible photos, but all the markings are there. 163587703945 |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Certainly a minefield out there. It's odd that s/he is so good at doctoring coins but cannot take decent pictures for ebay listings. Seller does offer a 14 day return policy so it seems like a reasonable risk. Edited by numismatic student
03/20/2019 08:51 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I would surmise that the poor photos are part of the scheme to help avoid detection that these are resold coins after being doctored.
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Rest in Peace
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Very nice detective work Indian Hoarder. I will avoid that seller like the plague.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Certainly kudos to Indian hoarder and Zurie for doing so much legwork for our benefit. They are great assets to our community.
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Pillar of the Community
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I will add my "Amen" to this as well.
The three coins I purchased last week from this seller are all going to be returned for a refund.
I figure these fine CCF members saved me about $230 with their helpful information. I am quite grateful for it.
Paul Bulgerin
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I agree, thanks are due to all who took the time to research and identify the coins and the seller. Quite an education here. There is a Counterfeit Detection forum at this site that only allows authorized users. Does anyone know how to get access to it? Sometime ago this forum was open to all and I noted a seller, that I had previously purchased coins from, was mentioned several times on this forum. I took a second look at the coins I had purchased and at least one was altered. I was like a dog howling at the moon mad. This forum was truly educational and named names. I wish it was open to all again. |
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