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Bedrock of the Community
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If that's graffiti, it would kill the value. Yes, the reverse field scratches are significant even if they're not graffitti. If it straight-graded, and that's a big if, then MS63 is as high as I could see it grading. |
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UNC Details scratched. This coin will body bag.
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Ok, as most of the concern is with the back, here is a HD uncut down pick of the areas in question. I will say this, it's a shame because with the naked eye you cant see it. I think it's going back :)  |
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Ok, as most of the concern is with the back, here is a HD uncut down pick of the areas in question. That limited view gives an impression of a coin that is not Mint State. It would be interesting to do some sleuthing and find out if this one came out of a Details slab. |
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I think you are probably right, I checked out more of the guy's coins, and I think he does a lot of volume, and doesn't mind offering the free returns.
I may not be good at this yet, but I am good at cash flow. He just runs the numbers, and eventually someone keeps it.
I noticed similar flaws in alot his coins.
What I'm interested in learning, is if the scratches are "intentional" as some have said, it's not a common subject that I have read about, and am interested in less traveled roads in the grading community.
Thanks again for the input all.
Edited by farrider11
04/12/2019 7:12 pm
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Very unlikely those scratches are intentional. Many otherwise pristine coins out of bags have portions that look like they survived a knife fight. It doesn't hurt the grade that much, since bag marks are the norm for uncirculated Morgans. Thanks to some outstanding luster, I'd put this one at MS-63. Too baggy for a 64.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The reverses of uncirculated Morgan dollars are usually quite attractive, and would almost never display long scratches like this on either side of the feathers, much less both. This coin has been deliberately scratched, I think, or will always be perceived as such.  |
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Now we have a chicken or the egg scenario, why would someone do that to a tough date?
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They look intentional to me. The symmetry of the long, multiple scratches on either side of the wings, and the absence of marks elsewhere on the reverse, makes it highly likely they were deliberate. They might have been made in the 1890's shortly after the coin was minted. Doubt someone would have done that recently to a valuable coin.
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Thing is though, not saying your wrong, but if your going to intentionally do something, you would make sure it is visible to the naked eye. For what ever reason your doing it. And if it was done 100 plus years ago, they didn't have digital cameras.
In hand, you can't see it. I'm just throwing out a logic thing.
If this was intentionally, my bet is it was done in our century, for whatever reason.
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04/12/2019 8:49 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Sent it back this morning, too many bad vibes.
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Let's say you get it in a 63 or 64 slab. It's still ugly. MS-62 straight would be generous. I would pass.
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Rest in Peace
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You made the right choice. There was no upside for that one...  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Almost certainly the perp didn't know it was a tough date. |
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Yea and I learned about coin art lol
Edited by farrider11
04/13/2019 5:51 pm
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