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 Posted 08/22/2008  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I used to have more but sold a few on ebay and made a nice profit. I think I will hold the others for now
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 Posted 08/23/2008  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
I'll put in my plug for the 1923-29 walkers, which you can find in the junk bins in G-VG, occasionally F, for bullion price. Anything above F is hard to find, and there still could be a bargain or two.
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 Posted 08/23/2008  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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One of my favorite sleepers that woke up. Got about 30 of them.
If I ever decide to build an SLQ set, I know who I am going to!
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 Posted 08/24/2008  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeathJr to your friends list
What I think is a sure sleeper still is, the 1880 Shield nickel even though its pricey it should be way more than what pcgs posted it. 1916-d merc is about 400 dollars more but yet the 1880 Shield nickel mint is a mear 16,000 compared to the 264 thousand 1916d mercs
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 Posted 08/24/2008  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sean1011 to your friends list
I would like to look into how prices rise, and hopefully see a trend but where would I get this information?

It seems like all you guys are just going on mintage, are there other things to consider? and if there is what else?

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Also,what are some long term sleeper coins that might be a good idea to hold onto now, that might be worth something in 40 years?

I'm wondering just in case I lose interest in coin collecting but decide to pick it up again when I'm older.
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 Posted 08/24/2008  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
Sean the key is watch buying trends on some of the bigger online acutions , ebay , Heritage and teletrade , also listen to the walls so to speak there are many folks out here that are close to the market on certian types of coins .

read the periodicals ,coins and coin prices ,coinage including the back issues if you have not read them before ,,watch the prices realised and the number of coins which are on the market for certian years ,mints and series .







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 Posted 08/24/2008  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clembo to your friends list
Sean,

Metalman gives very good advice on this one. It's pretty much what I do.
I also throw in a pretty liberal dash of "hunch". Hunch being - well I have a hunch.

When you've got your hunch start looking harder at all of the other sources Metalman has listed. You will often be surprised.

If you have local dealers they are a great source. When I decided to start picking up 14-S quarters the first thing I heard from any dealer when I asked was "under rated coin".
One quoted me a price OVER retail because of this. I didn't buy as the guy I now work for would sell them to me at dealer bid.

If you DO start picking up sleepers watch out for over grading as well. It's just like key coins. Dealers/Sellers know or feel it's under rated and this can often lead to over grading.

Sleeper picking is kind of like cherry picking but without the "concrete" backing.

It requires a lot of patience and willingness to go long term. The ones I've done well with I've sat on for at least a few years but when they start to move they tend to move quickly.

Luckily my wife understands this.

My collection is in no way all about investment. I love coins. Having the sleepers is part of the fun.
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 Posted 08/24/2008  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
So far I have not seen or I may have missed it ,,but Half Dimes are a very under rated little coin ,, with some very exceptional dates in the mix ,,I think this series is a sleeping giant ! even going to be impressive into some of the lower grades on certian dates when they move !

conditional rarity on most series I also believe is going to move even beyond where those certian coins are now .

High mintages with few Gems is always a good place to look for future gains !

Full step Jeffersons of several specific years are a good place to start !
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 Posted 08/24/2008  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list
And " Half Dimes" are "affordable" too right now.....
I have a few, but not any in the condition I would prefer.....I might have to play these "hunches" and begin acquiring a decent pile of em' !
But they should have a place in everyones collection anyway really.....they're historical and neat and have the beloved "Seated Liberty" of course.......so they shouldn't be ignored and omitted from anyone's collection !...IMHO
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 Posted 08/24/2008  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clembo to your friends list
Half Dimes.

Full of low mintages and small coins.

A higher mintage coin that I've been looking at is the Seated Liberty quarter with rays. One year type, really cool and available.

Would probably go higher grade.

It's a "small hunch". I own none at this point.
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 Posted 08/24/2008  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ken_3567 to your friends list
I tend look for undervalued coins where different collecting techniques cross like a series collector and type set collecting. Sometimes if it's a key or semi-key you occasionally have many collecting techniques all converging.

BTW, an 1871-S Half Dime dime was listed on page 1 :)
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 Posted 08/24/2008  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I agree with the Half Dimes. Great values in the set. I just picked up an ANACS G4 1844-O. This is a pretty good date. It's been cleaned, but this date is tough to find problem free.
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 Posted 08/25/2008  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PennehChaos to your friends list

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Well, no one has addressed it yet but there's an explosion ongoing in scarce Morgan and Peace VAMs. I know these aren't types, they're varieties, but the explosion is there nonetheless.

A treasure-seeker mentality is driving this (yes, I'm a victim). Imagine perusing a dealers case and spotting a coin worth $15,000 with a $40 price tag on it. It has been happening!


Are people really *paying* $15,000 for these VAMs, though? I've certainly been seeing a lot of hype, but I wonder how many people are really investing in these minute variations once they've been found, as opposed to the number of people searching them out and talking about how rare they are.

i just bought the #1 item on my current "sleeper" list- the 1931-S Lincoln Cent. The prices for the higher grades seem low for second-lowest mintage of one of the most popular collector series in the U.S. Once my funds recover a bit, i'll be after S-mint Morgans from the 1880s...
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 Posted 08/25/2008  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimJing to your friends list
The reason the prices are low for the 1931-S Lincoln I believe is due to hoarding, and exposure of the fact that the mintage was low. Plus it's harder to get exorbitant prices for anything made after 1930 IMO.
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 Posted 08/25/2008  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PennehChaos to your friends list
Maybe so, but I would suspect that people hoarded the '09 issues on an even greater scale, and those prices are EEEEENNNN-SANNNNE!
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