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Pillar of the Community
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Great, let us know if it helped.
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Valued Member
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You nailed it! I see that the first image is upside down and the legend is as you stated. To the first resopder, I now see the letters thanks to numisma "+  M COMITISSA" Thanks to both of you! |
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@tdz, I agree that the Crusader States are not a super match for the OP's coin. The only other region that seems to have a cross pattee with crescents in more than one of the quarters is medieval Hainaut/Valenciennes. At first I was thinking that this was perhaps the middle section of this two thirds gros: https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...064bead81720but the crescents are oriented incorrectly (and the rev is a crown rather than most of a horseman). Smaller silver from this same region (e.g. here: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces94853.html) also has four crescents, but again not facing the same way as on the OP's coin. Sorry but this one has me stumped!  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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The only other region that seems to have a cross pattee with crescents in more than one of the quarters is medieval Hainaut/Valenciennes Still looks like the best lead thus far. I briefly wondered if that obv device could even be a rampant lion if rotated counterclockwise 120 degrees or so , since this is found on some deniers from that area... But neither the cross, nor that design looks quite right for the published examples. |
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Valued Member
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still not find any...maybe it take some time
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Valued Member
Malaysia
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usd 10 selling price, do you think that price will be okay?
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@cs, yes as an unidentified coin it probably isn't worth much more than $20 in my mind. For example, that was my max bid on a recent mail auction for an unidentified medieval. I personally like the challenge and twenty bucks seems like its worth the entertainment value of chasing it down. If it does turn out to be identifiable, then likely is worth 3-5 times that.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Valued Member
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thanks just to make sure that letgo price is reasonale
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Pillar of the Community
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I wonder if this could be a later (17th/18th c.) Order of Malta coin or token, or a forgery of one? This coin is not a match, but it has a Maltese cross with numerals in the angles. And the style of lettering is more modern like on the OP's coin (not Gothic as is found on the earlier crusader coins). https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces44730.htmlAlso, a common device on Malta coins is the head of John the Baptist on a plate (as in the biblical story, and on this coin: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces83857.html ). It is possible that this is the device in the first photo of the OP's coin. Edited by tdziemia
05/06/2019 08:34 am
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Valued Member
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that is the most simlar .. thank ..
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Ok yes there are some pieces from Levon I that have the cross with a crescent in each quarter (e.g. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces115204.html , which is somewhat close to your piece). I don't have any good references for Cilician Armenia, but hopefully someone else here does. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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this italy .... just get info from fb
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this italy Having now invested some time in trying to figure this out @CS, any chance of you posting more detail about the attribution? Thx! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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