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1878 S Morgan For Grade Thoughts?

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 Posted 05/04/2019  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list
TPG is PCGS no one is picking up on the hint.

See beyond the fingers lol
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 Posted 05/04/2019  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
PCGS bumps coins up (+ 0.5 to 1.0 grades) or knocks them down (as much as -2.0 grades) for eye appeal. Since this is PCGS, I'm sure they have it as 65. The coin has really nice eye appeal, and that would cause them to bump the technical grade. This is one of many reasons why Bluesheet prices for some PCGS 65 Morgans have dropped and why some NGC 65 Morgans trend higher.

If PCGS has it as 65, I definitely disagree with the grade. This coin is a solid 64, all day. IMHO, it should trade above a generic 64 because of the eye appeal, but it isn't a 65. If I saw this coin at a show, I'm a buyer or seller at 64, with the haggling centered on the amount of value bump for eye appeal.

JMHO. I know others will disagree.

It's a really beautiful coin and would rock any collection. Thanks for sharing it!

EDIT: If I saw this at a show, I'd price haggle about 1/3 of the way between 64 and 65. The eye appeal is well worth that bump.
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05/04/2019 2:21 pm
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 Posted 05/04/2019  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list
Very informative reply, I'm still learning, thank you!
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 Posted 05/05/2019  03:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list
Ms-65. The obverse is easily 65+ with the only major negative being the hits by the lips. The reverse on the other hand is below 65, check out 3pm and 10pm and the marks next to both wings.
I try not to be conservative, but rather consistent based on the many others of similar grades I've seen.
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MS64+
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 Posted 05/06/2019  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list
Past 48 Hours, got it in hand today and someone got it right

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 Posted 05/06/2019  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Good for you!
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 Posted 05/06/2019  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NDBirdman to your friends list
Nice!
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 Posted 05/06/2019  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I think WE are right, and and PCGS is wrong.

WE all graded quite consistently in this case.
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 Posted 05/06/2019  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list
Could be, but I'm usually caught on the under graded coin side, nice to be on the over graded side for a change :)
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 Posted 05/07/2019  01:31 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
If you're buying a graded coin, much better to buy an undergraded one.
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 Posted 05/07/2019  02:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
There is always the temptation for a TPGrader to overgrade slightly.
Indirectly, it means extra business for them.

The TPGraders with the best reputation grade conservatively.
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 Posted 05/07/2019  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list
Obverse put it in the 65 holder. They tend to weigh the obverse more heavily, which is why I guessed 65.
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 Posted 05/07/2019  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
As I said, I'm not surprised that PCGS called it a MS 65 because of eye appeal, but I still see it trading on a bourse floor as a 64. Nice coin, though.
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