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New Member Needng Some Help Identifying A Few Hammered Coins

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 Posted 05/06/2019  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
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I have recently started collecting English hammered coins so I might be wrong with my ID, but I believe your coin is a short cross penny of Henry II.

I'm moving this thread over to the ancient/medieval coin section for more comments.
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 Posted 05/06/2019  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list
Henry II, class 1b, Oxford, moneyer Owein. North 963; Spink SCBC 1344. Rev: +OWEIN (dot) ON (dot) OXEN (Reverse photo should be rotated 90 degrees anti-clockwise).

Class can be difficult to sort out but according to North, only class 1b is known for this moneyer at this mint and I see nothing in the style of your coin to contradict that.
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Many thanks Kushanshah that's great information, yes that's where I struggle with class Edwards are mind boggling, I will post a couple more up tomorrow if you would cast your eye over them please, some are worn and bent I will leave the worst till last thanks again.
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Welcome aboard!
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 Posted 05/07/2019  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lizshiel to your friends list
Many thanks ^^^

Next coin sorry its a little out of focus, (my reference coin 8)


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Another one, (my reverence coin 3)


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In the future please start a new thread when adding coins.

Maybe Kushanshah can say for sure, my best guess would be Henry II based on the shape of the hair curls.
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Thanks its part of a HOARD as stated so there is every chance all the coins are from the same period but not guaranteed, its class and moneyer I am interested in I know its Henry 11, cant I leave them all in the same post for my own reverence.
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You would get more views and comments if they are in a separate thread, however if they are all from the same hoard it's OK to keep them together in one thread.
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Many thanks here in the UK the coins need to be handed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_Act_1996 I will get a full ID on every coin from the museum at some point in time its good for me to keep them in one place for my own reference in the future thanks again.
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 Posted 05/07/2019  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list
You posted the same photos for coins 3 and 8.
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Hi thanks strange its showing different here ?

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Still just one new coin posted. The problem may with your file names. In any event, the new coin is Richard I in the name of Henry II. The moneyer is +STIVENE ON LVN. According to North, the coins of this moneyer belong to classes 2-4b. Classes 2, 3 and 4a are assigned to Richard I. 4b is given to John. However, SCBC (much more recent), gives 4b to Richard, meaning Stivene's coins from London are always for Richard. Narrowing this coin down to a specific class will be difficult given the strike.
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Many thanks that's great information, I think that's the above coin I will try again with the other one thanks again for your time and help.


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The moneyer on this latest coin is +ALEIN ON CARDI (Carlisle). North gives Alein's classes at Carlisle as 1b,c,3,4a,b. I think the crudeness of the portrait rules out class 1. 4b has colon stops on reverse. That leaves us at 3 or 4a, both classes assigned to Richard I. The beard on 3 is made of small curls. The beard on 4a is made of pellets. The coin below is attributed as 4a by Dix Noonan Webb. I believe the reverse die may be the same as yours.
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